Sharp airlines

[scarediecat]

Following the recent advertising for pilots at Sharp Airlines, just wondering if any one has been invited for an interview. I know a couple of experienced guys (5000+hrs turbine etc) who applied but unfortunately for them they did'nt get invited for an interview?

[PLovett]

I know a couple of experienced guys (5000+hrs turbine etc) who applied but unfortunately for them they did'nt get invited for an interview?

Well, that makes me feel better then. I knew I should have buttonholed MS about those interviews at Flinders Island when I had the chance.

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

Some people are very fortunate to have the funds for a cadetship and some are unfortunate.

What an incredibly profound statement!

If you have to ask your parents for money, there's nothing wrong with that.

There is everything wrong with asking Mumsy and Dadsy if they can buy you a shiny turboprop job

I may not know to much about the Aviation industry

Then shut your cake-hole

but its fair to say that it doesn't take time to realise how hard the industry is, You need to be hungry to survive and succeeded.

You're the kind of guy who'd climb over a baby to get to the emergency exit first in a crash.

So at the end of the day everyone chooses different paths in the industry and we need to support one another, to many negatives.

What you propose is the furthest thing from supporting one another, we already have a Federation (et al) for that (and 'to many negatives...what'; that's a preposition, Peugeot Boy. Then again maybe that was a Freudian slip; let's get rid of the comma: "we need to support one another to many negatives." What you propose is one hell of a fast way to support each other to some pretty dire negatives).

Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: sydney
Age: 20
Posts: 15

Come back when you've got a clue, son (sorry, you'll have to wait as Mumsy and Dadsy can't buy you one of those).

Safe Flying!!

Good luck to the poor souls who're stuck as your passengers when you reach that grand total of 250 hours.

Rant far from over,

FRQ CB

[Soar2384]

Seriously FRQ to have that much energy to write all that, I think you need to lay off the red bull! Here, let me help you get started on pulling my post apart.

Seriously

"S" must equal stupid, "e" must equal easy, "r" must equal rediculous, "i" must equal idiot...

I mean seriously mate, what's the point?

[das Uber Soldat]

Helps if you spelled ridiculous correctly.

I'm on board with FRQ. The frustration generated amongst pilots by kids buying fake jobs (a metro is a single pilot aircraft, so sitting in the right seat is glorified day care) then getting onto pprune proclaiming its a legitimate path is significant.

Apart from the destruction of T & C's that they are unwittingly promoting, they don't understand just how clueless they are at 250 hours. Or even 1000 hours.

In my eyes these schemes, including the rex and jet* schemes, are a cancer.

[bizzybody]

there we go

When all else fail bring on the spelling police to shoot someone down

[das Uber Soldat]

Your post would make sense Bizz if I had simply corrected his spelling and then wandered off without addressing any of the issues.



I actually find a level of irony in the misspelling. The absurdity of inexperienced and ignorant individuals lecturing effectively their polar opposites whilst simultaneously demonstrating their ineptness is fairly amusing. Or perhaps the 'I' and 'E' keys are like right next to each other on his super cadet keyboard.

[Soar2384]

Um, who said I was a cadet? Is there an assumption that I work for Sharp as well? In fact I will go to the extent of saying that I don't agree with cadetships. As you pointed out das, it makes it easy for airlines to reduce T's & C's. What do you believe you would achieve in snapping at everyone who disagrees with your way of thinking? Do you believe that managment are going to be listening and say "oh right, a pilot doesn't like that we do a cadetship. We'd better shut it down then!" Do you believe that people coming into the industry are not going to apply for a cadetship because of what someone says here on PPRuNe? So back to my original point, what's the point?

And in regards to my spelling das, did you understand what I meant? It's a chat site, not a newspaper article so let's just stick to the point on this shall we?

[das Uber Soldat]

edit; Actually my post was too mean. Never mind.

I get your point but I am still keen to try to dissuade people who may not necessarily be aware of the pit falls of these cadet schemes to put a bit more thought into the long term situation they are placing themselves in.

[Roxy_Chick_1989]

To take a positive look on these cadet scheme, and no I am not considering the aformentioned schemes, there is an attraction to the fact that graduates will have potential for sustained employment upon course completion. For many people simply going the traditional flying school route, the prospect of getting any flying job upon completion is certainly a consideration, not to add the fact that those going the traditional route often hear the age-old story of John Smith who paid $70k for all his ratings and licenses, went in search of a first job and continually missed out season after season. Now tell me who is in the favourably position, the bloke who is sitting around on Seek trying to get a job at a servo after a $70k loss, or the guy who paid $100k, and is employed to fly, with prospects (however narrow, prospects none the less)

[das Uber Soldat]

Yeh, lets ignore the impact on the industry. He's got a jet job! Sure he's being paid less than a servo attendant.

Infact, I think we should introduce these schemes in all professions! Brain surgeon cadet ship! Apply now, pay $150 grand but you're let loose on real patients after 5 months training on 22 grand a year for the next 7 years!

PERFECT. WHAT COULD GO WRONG.

Additionally, I wasn't aware that the cadet ships offered guaranteed employment at the end of the training period. Has this changed?

I haven't met any competent and dedicated pilot that was unable to get a job. Those who struggled were often the ones with a poor attitude or were unwilling to make the effort to go where the work was. I think your post is vapid.

[FRQ Charlie Bravo]

I haven't met any competent and dedicated pilot that was unable to get a job. Those who struggled were often the ones with a poor attitude or were unwilling to make the effort to go where the work was. I think your post is vapid.

Quite true, das. I haven't thought of it in this light before but you certainly hit the nail on the head. Sure it's tough but once you get a few CHTR hours in a C206 then you can expect to be able to find a ladder to climb somewhere around the country. (Or you could go to the bank and buy an escalator.)

FRQ CB

PS Whilst not everything, spelling certainly does matter.

[kalavo]

Infact, I think we should introduce these schemes in all professions! Brain surgeon cadet ship! Apply now, pay $150 grand but you're let loose on real patients after 5 months training on 22 grand a year for the next 7 years!

Actually a similar thing is happening in the medical profession. Previously uni placements were only available to those with a sufficiently high TER and passing the UMAT test. A number of placements were also made available for full fee paying overseas students, which resulted in complaints that little Jimmy couldn't pass the UMAT test or didn't do so well at school but still wanted to be a Doctor.

So the universities have since opened up placements for full fee paying local students who don't meet the TER/UMAT requirements. HECS isn't available for these slots, but pay $150 grand and... you get the picture.

[Col Miner]

Just a question to all those out there complaining about cadetships or people buying positions. Didn't you all at some point "pay" for your license and other qualifications?
I would honestly like to know how anyone can afford to pay the $70 000+ required these days? That is anyone not in the position of still living with their parents with no living expenses while they do it (I am not having a go at these people either, half their luck I say) I would just like to know how you come up with that sort of money? It isn't hard to see the attraction of a cadetship that gives an option to pay this off over a bit of time (not sure of the Sharp one in question but I know REX and Jet Star allow this).

[kingRB]

I would honestly like to know how anyone can afford to pay the $70 000+ required these days? That is anyone not in the position of still living with their parents with no living expenses while they do it

I would just like to know how you come up with that sort of money?

Its called hard work and determination mate. If you really want it, you will go out and make it happen. Go and find employment in another line of work. I did it, thousands of others have done it before me. It might take quite a few years to achieve it.... But how badly do you want it?

Working toward a goal like that will give you perspective and a different outlook toward life that the silver spoon cadetship path does not provide. It also doesn't undermine T&C's for the rest of the industry while you do it.

[SpyderPig]

Ditto that. If you really want to fly for a living you will appreciate it so much more if you work hard to achieve your goals. Besides, it's the journey not the destination that makes it interesting!

I don't live at home and work in order to pay for my CPL. Sure it means less nights at the pub with the lads, but if you really want it you can make it work. 2nd jobs are not uncommon even for non flying folks these days.

I don't know much about the Sharp program except that I couldn't afford it. But the other cadetships these days are just a way to undermine the conditions of the industry and give false hope to those who in my opinion are misguided enough to sign up for them.

This has been done to death on here, hit the search button, grab a beer and be enlightened lol