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Old 30th Oct 2009, 22:06
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i just fail to understand why cadets are paying for the course, Its a cadetship, Cadets arn't ment to be paying for there education.

Does anyone know of anyone that has taken up this cadetship?? ovusly only they will know.

Also how many people are they taking in for the 2010 cadetship.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 22:35
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Sadly boi, if you want any type of cadetship with an Australian company, you HAVE to pay. Wether that is right or like in the GA topic it's part of the degenerating conditions is another matter, but in Australia you have to redefine the word cadetship, it's not what the Europeans get.

The benefits are there to different degrees (compare benefits of Rex v Qantas cadetships) but like anything you do miss experiences, same as if you take a GA route or a RAAF route. In the end whichever way you go, with the right attitude you will get wherever you want (that's what I am banking on anyway )
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 22:53
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i just fail to understand why cadets are paying for the course, Its a cadetship, Cadets arn't ment to be paying for there education.
You must be new around here. Mate, even Qantas cadets pay for their own training. No such thing as a free ride here in Aus; it's not Asia, you know.
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Old 30th Oct 2009, 23:59
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And gee P boi, have you checked out the cost of any tertiary education in Australia?

- A basic Arts degree is going to have you shelling out several 10's of thousands or several years of HECS debt for a 3 year pass degree....

Nothing is free anymore .
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I suggest you wind it up now its not doing your application any good!

But since you asked and for the record again....ALL cadets get offered 12 months employment and over 19 years we have achieved 85% employment success.

Most cadets are turned away at pre-application point i.e. on receipt of their resume and academic results. We probably get 80-100 per year but I never really count them I just try and pick the best ones.

I am not really concerned about what others think as we have been doing it long enough and have the runs on the board. Most of our cadets work their guts out to get to where they are so you are probably doing them an injustice....I can handle the critisism.

But that is a lesson you will need to learn.....as the others have said there is no free ride in this world son!

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p.s. that smilie looks a bit like me...enough of the hair jokes guys!!!
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msharp,

Saw 2 x your Metros at ADL last week great looking ships!

I hope your RPT runs are holding up okay.

Well Done
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Hi all

Does anyone know if REX accept applicants to their cadetships that hold CPL and MECIR, 2 almost 3 ATPL's and about 300hrs??

I'd love to fly something like night freight metros or saabs etc. I know its a long shot but I'm very enthusiastic to get a start ASAP. Working off an endorsement does't bother me. If a contract for 3,4,5 years was put in front of me it'd be signed in about 2.5 sec.

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And this is why aviation is in the state its currently in....
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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 09:30
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Sweet looking paint jobs on the Metro's too!

Peugeotboi, are you serious?

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Old 3rd Nov 2009, 09:30
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Chadzat

I'm sure you also had to start somewhere. If you know of any GA jobs around for people of my level of experience feel free to let me know.
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Mate I would, if I knew you, thats kinda how it works, you get talking with people everywhere you go connected to Aviation and something will turn up. Have you had a go at heading West (normally its north but I see you are in Qld)?

Im not having a go at you for being enthusiastic, thats fantastic and it will see you get far. But dont stoop to the lowest level until you have tried everything else first.

You're not going to make too many friends around the place if you go sprouting off about offering to pay for endorsements and especially the ridiculous T's and C's that go with the Rex cadetship.
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Well mate I suppose all are entitled to their own opinion. It would suit me a hell of a lot better for family reasons to be able to stay in YBBN. If I'm not successful here then yes I will have to head west, I really want to get out of my current nonflying job just afetr xmas.
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Hi Clinty,

I can understand your desire to stay in BN, however, I do not think that it is a possibility. You may be able to be close to BN (3-4 hours drive) but a job in BN with your experience is highly unlikely IMO. I didn't think REX had a BN base anyway?

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I know that is mre than likely the case. Rex don't have a BN base but I know of two lucky people who landed a job with Pel Air on metros with my hrs. I think Pel Air is a subsidury of REX?? Just hopeful I suppose.

The western ave is looking to be the best option. But it is still very quiet in GA.
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Yeah very quiet here.. I've seen four people start new jobs in the past fortnight. Seen a few other new faces around the place but haven't spoken to them yet.

Not to worry, if the very enthusiastic are all staying in Brisbane, then I guess operators will just have to keep giving the jobs to the unenthusiastic people who find it all too hard to stay in a capital city and have packed up the car to meet and greet operators.
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Clinty - do all those guys that got jobs at Pel-Air still have their jobs, because Pel basically closed down it's Metro ops and most of the guys were all given the heave ho.

Even in Virgin and Qantas - BN is one of the hardest bases to get into
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Well said Chadzat and Kalavo!

The industry is what it is take it or leave it! (many end up leaving) Knowing people and being in the right place at the right time are the keys. Anyone who thinks they're in for an easy ride is in for a real shock. I think even some of the cadets of various operators are finding that one out. There will be the odd golden boy/girl story but for the majority its not an easy path and there are no real shortcuts. Certainly not ones that won't come back to bite you on the rear end in some form.

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Old 4th Nov 2009, 02:07
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Surely clinty83 is a windup.

CPL and MECIR, 2 almost 3 ATPL's and about 300hrs??
Either that, or you have been badly mislead on the first job front. For all the newbies out there, here are the numbers that you need to be looking at.

First Job
CPL and 200-250hrs+ but the more the better, then all you need to worry about is reaching 1000/200. Meaning 1000hrs TT on a 200 series something similiar (Airvan, Bonanza, etc)

Then you can start thinking about 500/2, or 500 multi engine. Note I said start thinking, 1000hrs doesn't magically gift a job in a twin, could be 800, could be 1500 TT.

Once you have 2000TT and 500 multi, then you can start to look for metro/saab night freight jobs on the east coast.

I'm not being being mean, I'm stating the likely course your career will take. Anything other than this is more an exception than a rule.

To state that you will sign a long term contract and pay off an endorsment just to make life easier will only backfire on you in the longterm, and makes life harder for those more qualified to earn a better wage.
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Old 6th Nov 2009, 02:17
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Sorry for asking about if its free, i know nothing is free these days.

i have acouple of friends up in Kuwait and Qatar they're doing a cadetship and they're not paying for it. I just thought l'll ask. I did read on the website of sharp airlines that you do have to pay, but i thought l'll ask in general.


malcolm, i guarantee you that i will work harder then any cadet you've came across, i just hope you give me that chance to prove so.


thank you.

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Old 6th Nov 2009, 12:19
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thanks minger, coz I aint changing my handle to "the air up their" sounds a little suss.
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