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Old 21st Oct 2009, 08:54
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Whitworth is based at ysbk and been open for about twenty years and specialises in ifr. No one is in yet. they just selected few people and they are gonna tell us wats the offer etc. So i guess we will find out on sunday wat this is all about.
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Old 23rd Oct 2009, 03:50
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A few guys I know with over 500 multi (including myself), sent in a resume, and as far as I know, nobody (including myself) have received any reply.

I guess they are aiming for low-time pilots. I suspect that it may involve the low-time pilots handing over some cash or accepting some pretty ordinary conditions.

Who knows??

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Old 24th Oct 2009, 07:36
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It could be that low timers are easier to retain when the airline movements come no 500 multi cmd = first officer for a long time... isn't that how rex are playing thier cadets???
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Old 24th Oct 2009, 09:46
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well i think 1 or 2 that have being selected have over 500 command multi.so i dont really know how the selection process was done
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Old 25th Oct 2009, 05:36
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its merparti airline... after we found out from the meeting.. read this about the airline:

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Old 25th Oct 2009, 06:09
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No one is in yet. they just selected few people and they are gonna tell us wats the offer etc. So i guess we will find out on sunday wat this is all about.
So, alexcon, what is it all about? Is it a "pay of for your rating and hours" type program?
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Old 25th Oct 2009, 07:13
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I went to the meeting at BK this morning. They had about 20 of us in the room, and the guy started talking about how they needed pilots, and pilots getting trained in Indonesia are all currently being snapped up by Lion Air to fly 737s, and aren't interested in flying ATRs.
There was an issue of paying AUS$1000 once we've been accepted.
There was also the question of weather we would have a contract saying that we would be employed or not, but the question got avoided and replied with "I will come over with you and introduce you to the company directors" or along those lines.
He (Richard) said that they will be looking for more and more intakes of pilots at around 10 at a time. With 20 in the room today, he said that there would be 10 in the first lot and 10 in the second lot as they can't train more than that at a time realistically on simulators. I'm thinking personally it would be better to be selected in the 2nd lot of 10 just to see what the first group makes of it.
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Old 25th Oct 2009, 07:43
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This stuff just keeps getting better and better
So now you gotta pay $1000 just to get a job????
any one else see something wrong here???
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Old 25th Oct 2009, 11:42
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ye i am the one who asked him to prove to us what he is saying about pay etc.. are we gonna see a contract before we go.. He avoided my question so i asked him again and he still didn reply with the right answer.. To top it all, then he said he wants 1000 dollars. Which airline would ask for 1000 dollars and to transfer it to a personal local bank.. He didn even introduce him properly as he works for the company.. Did anyone pick up on his name tag saying expired 2004??
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Old 25th Oct 2009, 12:19
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Did he say what the $1000 was for?
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Old 25th Oct 2009, 13:48
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Personal Retirement Fund Perhaps...

Caveat Emptor...
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 02:07
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HMM.. becarefull guys so many scammers in indonesia. damn javanese ppl. i would get a solicitor to look over any contract and have one first before coughing up any $.
Oh and judging from that report maybe the indonesians know something thats why they are leaving for lion air ? airline going bust ?
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 02:21
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j3,

it actually would not surprise me if the Retirement is where the money is headed. You've heard many of my stories about the crap they tried to pull on us in China. Sounds like maybe the same thing here.

But if this joker wants $1000, doesnt officially say that he works for a paticular airline, but promises that he will place you in an airline - doesn't that make him a recruiter??? Like Rishworth, but only low-rent and dodgy???

Isn't that what recruiters do????
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DO NOT PAY THE 1000 DOLLARS. one of the guys called the airline and they said they have no atrs and sent back the ma60s. They are also not recruiting and the guy Resad (richard) is still in indoneisa and that guy we met is using his ID.

Watch out.
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 06:37
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Alex, So before you said it's legit based on witworths word and now you say it's a scam, so which is it???
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 06:46
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In my opinion at low time CPL can afford to take a few risks that might pay off, but paying $1000 to someone who's reluctant to tell you who's hiring....

well... I paid a Nigerian guy once who promised great things too...
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 07:00
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Originally Posted by alexcon
one of the guys called the airline and they said they have no atrs and sent back the ma60s.
Well, that's what I thought. This webpage is from Merpati's Training Centre. They do type rating courses for 737s and Twin Otters; no ATRs nor MA 60s.

And what's this about local Indonesian pilots not wanting to become F/O's for turbo prop operations? If that was true, then who are crewing their current fleet of CN 235s, and Twotters?
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 07:16
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SCAM Beware

Found this interesting reading
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Old 26th Oct 2009, 07:21
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HTFU.. i said whitworth said its legit.. doesn mean i believe its legit.. and yes to me its a scam because he asked us for 1000 dollars and he wouldn show us proof.
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welcome to aviation

Alex you will find some real jokers in aviation, if it's not the prick colleague that wants to stab your back to get more hours or move ahead in the company faster than you, to the idiot boss that wants to hold back your progression onto better aircraft. Unfortunately the industry if full of these disgruntled morons with chips on thier shoulders and hero's with something to prove, and then there are also the parasite scammers wanting to cash in on your desperation for a job, which you seem to have run into, cheer up mate you will run into more of these 's on our journey within aviation just keep your wits about you and don't let yourself be suckered in...
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