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AFP have publically confirmed their aircraft was used in the search
AFP admits its aircraft was used in Tim Holding search | Herald Sun
AFP admits its aircraft was used in Tim Holding search | Herald Sun
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I was going to say something insightful until I realised that it would be better for our troops in Afghanistan to let this topic die...
How long would a C208, BN or PN68 last in Afghanistan ???
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What about a mil drone?
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From the AFP web page
AFP Assistance to Victoria Police operation
Wednesday, 02 September 2009
The AFP can confirm the provision of some support to the Victorian Police to assist in the search for Mr Tim Holding.
The AFP routinely lease aircraft to support operational activity across the country and provided aerial support in this matter.
This capability has been utilised previously in a search capacity.
When certain operational assets are engaged, the AFP is constrained in the public comments they can make in relation to their use and deployment.
No further comment will be made in relation to the deployment of any operational assets of the AFP.
Media enquiries:
AFP Media (Canberra): (02) 6275 7100
Wednesday, 02 September 2009
The AFP can confirm the provision of some support to the Victorian Police to assist in the search for Mr Tim Holding.
The AFP routinely lease aircraft to support operational activity across the country and provided aerial support in this matter.
This capability has been utilised previously in a search capacity.
When certain operational assets are engaged, the AFP is constrained in the public comments they can make in relation to their use and deployment.
No further comment will be made in relation to the deployment of any operational assets of the AFP.
Media enquiries:
AFP Media (Canberra): (02) 6275 7100
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I cant believe that we have anything that is 'TOP SECRET'...
PS: Where would one apply for these top secret missions?
PS: Where would one apply for these top secret missions?
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The AFP never comment on security matters, it's just the standard company line.
Eg. John Howard wore a bullet-proof vest to a gun rally in Sale, East Vic. Whilst it was blatantly obvious that he wore it, they refused to comment as it was a "matter of national security."
The mere fact that the AFP may own or operate an aircraft that is even remotely to do with security means that they are legally bound to not comment. The fact that they won't comment on it doesn't make it "Top Secret," it could be a 172 for all we know and you would still get the same company line.
HH says:
Jobs@AFP - AFP Sorry HH, there doesn't seem to be any secret squirrel spy pilot positions open at the moment.
The AFP Graduate program for 2010 will commence in March 2010 for a 12 month period. The AFP’s Graduate Program is targeted to meeting the requirements of business areas that have identified the benefits and value of employing a Graduate both in terms of delivering outputs and a commitment to developing the graduate’s skills in the longer term. The following areas will be seeking to place a graduate for the 2010 program:
AFP Aviation provides a policing presence at Australia’s 11 major airports and is supported by staff in AFP Headquarters. The Aviation function is seeing a graduate to assist in the provision and preparation of: policy advice, ministerial responses and brief preparation, memorandum of understanding with stakeholder agencies, analysis and reporting against performance information and project work as required. A graduate commencing with the Aviation function would be exposed to challenging work and transition through several business units to enhance skills and develop a broad appreciation of the strategic work environment.
Eg. John Howard wore a bullet-proof vest to a gun rally in Sale, East Vic. Whilst it was blatantly obvious that he wore it, they refused to comment as it was a "matter of national security."
The mere fact that the AFP may own or operate an aircraft that is even remotely to do with security means that they are legally bound to not comment. The fact that they won't comment on it doesn't make it "Top Secret," it could be a 172 for all we know and you would still get the same company line.
HH says:
PS: Where would one apply for these top secret missions?
The AFP Graduate program for 2010 will commence in March 2010 for a 12 month period. The AFP’s Graduate Program is targeted to meeting the requirements of business areas that have identified the benefits and value of employing a Graduate both in terms of delivering outputs and a commitment to developing the graduate’s skills in the longer term. The following areas will be seeking to place a graduate for the 2010 program:
- Aviation;
- Border and International;
- Finance;
- High Tech Crime;
- Information and Communications Technology Group (ICTG);
- International Deployment Group (IDG); and
- Policy and Future Strategies.
AFP Aviation provides a policing presence at Australia’s 11 major airports and is supported by staff in AFP Headquarters. The Aviation function is seeing a graduate to assist in the provision and preparation of: policy advice, ministerial responses and brief preparation, memorandum of understanding with stakeholder agencies, analysis and reporting against performance information and project work as required. A graduate commencing with the Aviation function would be exposed to challenging work and transition through several business units to enhance skills and develop a broad appreciation of the strategic work environment.
Actually,,,It was Premier Brumby that bolted with the news that a light had been seen and the police now had a position of a possible campsite. That was the evening before the rescue
Ahhhhh yes..I have been caught by the news cycle...Premier Brumby must have let it slip that morning...Holding's partner had the information to ask the police spokesman about the aircraft at the conference...the one that was cut short....oh nuts...anyway someone must have let it slip out because it sounded like a race to the site to find the guy.
The "discovery" of him this morning (ie confirmed sighting him) is variously claimed by several media outlets.
surely you're not suggesting channel 9 lied to me?!??
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If he was an experienced walker and had a map etc thats a bit of a non-starter - more so if he knew the area.
Have to get your face in the media.
Having survived an uncontrolled 200 metre slide from just below the summit of Mount Feathertop, the State Government minister could have accepted an offer of help from three walkers to hike back to the spur trail.
Instead, he headed down the mountain to the snow line, hoping to walk across the slope and find his way back.
Instead, he headed down the mountain to the snow line, hoping to walk across the slope and find his way back.
Have to get your face in the media.
Never mind that extremely poor decision (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that it was due to his not being sound mind after his fall, not incompetence ) - what the hell was he doing on the summit of Mt Feathertop in icy winter conditions without an iceaxe?
He might have been an experienced bush walker but he was not equipped nor experienced for adventure above the snow line. He did NOT have the right gear (and I am not talking about an epirb) despite what the police said.
I've been skiing and/or ice climbing in just about every gully on Feathertop in winter for 17 years - and used to run courses in winter ice climbing and snowcraft there. I've never taken an EPIRB to date but I will never leave Fed or MUMC hut without an iceaxe if I am heading towards the summit.
Still good on him for having a go and getting out there. As us pilots know, we all start somewhere and sometimes experience comes through mistakes brought on by ignorance.
He might have been an experienced bush walker but he was not equipped nor experienced for adventure above the snow line. He did NOT have the right gear (and I am not talking about an epirb) despite what the police said.
I've been skiing and/or ice climbing in just about every gully on Feathertop in winter for 17 years - and used to run courses in winter ice climbing and snowcraft there. I've never taken an EPIRB to date but I will never leave Fed or MUMC hut without an iceaxe if I am heading towards the summit.
Still good on him for having a go and getting out there. As us pilots know, we all start somewhere and sometimes experience comes through mistakes brought on by ignorance.
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