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K rudd sponsorship - one of the many options
I would think that in today's maket you will be looking at getting a job if you have your 200 or so odd hours up heading up north to a remote area you should be able to land something.
Please make sure you have your CSU and retract, otherwise you will kick yourself. Plan on earning *not more* than 35K in the year. And remember that the cost of living is very high in some places up north.
Do not think for one second you have stopped learning, you are now on worse that student living conditions, and the real learning curve starts. Be safe and try and revise as much as you learnt - at the pub - with other pilots, this will be your lecture hall now and study group in one.
As you start out, remember god blessed you with 2 ears and one mouth, so you should listen twice as much as you speak!
Hopefully you will be able to keep your head down for a year, piss off and do your MECIR, and be back for the next season onto some shiny two engine fandangle of a machine.
Well this is all a plan. Do not get pissed off or angry if you have to sweep hnagers, many a hangar has been swept before, and will be after you have moved on.
Good luck young buck.
MP
Please make sure you have your CSU and retract, otherwise you will kick yourself. Plan on earning *not more* than 35K in the year. And remember that the cost of living is very high in some places up north.
Do not think for one second you have stopped learning, you are now on worse that student living conditions, and the real learning curve starts. Be safe and try and revise as much as you learnt - at the pub - with other pilots, this will be your lecture hall now and study group in one.
As you start out, remember god blessed you with 2 ears and one mouth, so you should listen twice as much as you speak!
Hopefully you will be able to keep your head down for a year, piss off and do your MECIR, and be back for the next season onto some shiny two engine fandangle of a machine.
Well this is all a plan. Do not get pissed off or angry if you have to sweep hnagers, many a hangar has been swept before, and will be after you have moved on.
Good luck young buck.
MP
Sage advice Mr P...although I would be careful of heeding all the advice you hear in the pub!
You will hear lots of ill informed crap, and more worryingly, sometimes dangerous crap!
Choose carefully your mentors and who's advice you take on board.
Just my 2 cents...
You will hear lots of ill informed crap, and more worryingly, sometimes dangerous crap!
Choose carefully your mentors and who's advice you take on board.
Just my 2 cents...
Geez things must have changed. I didn't earn 35k until my fourth job three years into flying full time. I do however remember paying very high prices for evryday food items from the local shop in the communities.You've gotta be keen, real keen.
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Caj88 - the federation of air pilots define an award safety net for Pilots. The link is here
Pilots GA Award - as at 30 October 2008 - Australian Federation of Air Pilots
The AFAP website also lists known jobs for free.
Consider joining AFAP.
I have been employed for several years as Crew - each salary has been on par with the sh*!!es! salary in any other field of work that I know about... but I front up to work almost broke
, but happy 
. My feelings are best summarised by Maslow's heirarchy of needs 
of which you'll become familiar with in the future if not already. It is offensive that it is likely that most office receptionists will be paid more than you or I - at least in the beginnings... and possibly in the in-betweens 
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NOSIGN
Pilots GA Award - as at 30 October 2008 - Australian Federation of Air Pilots
The AFAP website also lists known jobs for free.
Consider joining AFAP.
I have been employed for several years as Crew - each salary has been on par with the sh*!!es! salary in any other field of work that I know about... but I front up to work almost broke
, but happy . My feelings are best summarised by Maslow's heirarchy of needs of which you'll become familiar with in the future if not already. It is offensive that it is likely that most office receptionists will be paid more than you or I - at least in the beginnings... and possibly in the in-betweens . NOSIGN
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I think the basics of supply and demand dermine the wage paid in the first job stakes. I am not sure what transpires now but basically when I was a boy it was expected you would be ripped off by your first employer, maybe that is why cadetships are so popular nowadays. But the rewards and returns despite this were great.
My first full time position back in the early 80's was a job in the Red Centre. I got $120.00 a week plus board and residence. I was no Robinson Caruso either. It was tough, but a whole lot of fun. The bosses were tough but fun as well. They were, in reflection some of the best days of my life. No real worries just doing what I wanted to do. I left after 18 months and as one of the others said got a twin rating and class one instrument rating as it was called in those days and got a job on twin pretty much straight up then a Turbine about 18 months later and the rest is history, I will never regret that long lonely drive up the Stuart Highway.
In hindsight; and what a terrific thing that is I think a Multi command rating will stand you in good stead. Firstly for safety and also in most aircraft even the most basic of single ie 206/210 etc you will have a VOR and ADF;you may as well do the odd approach here and there (in good conditions) on the boss just to keep your hand in you know.
If you can't afford an Instrument rating so be it. Many such as me in the past flogged around the sticks VFR for the first bit of our careers.
I don't want to start and arguement about cadetships here but I genuinely feel you will be better off following the go North young man path. Having said that I know some ex cadets who are now skippers with major airlines, so who can say what is best. Having said all that I never really answered your question did I. Pay who knows as soon there will be an over supplyof drivers chasing jobs. Less work around in general etc etc etc snzzzzzz, (who wants to sound like Ruddy). Anyway essentially pilots will start working like I did in the sticks for peanuts. Essentially you have to go bush I think these days.
My first full time position back in the early 80's was a job in the Red Centre. I got $120.00 a week plus board and residence. I was no Robinson Caruso either. It was tough, but a whole lot of fun. The bosses were tough but fun as well. They were, in reflection some of the best days of my life. No real worries just doing what I wanted to do. I left after 18 months and as one of the others said got a twin rating and class one instrument rating as it was called in those days and got a job on twin pretty much straight up then a Turbine about 18 months later and the rest is history, I will never regret that long lonely drive up the Stuart Highway.
In hindsight; and what a terrific thing that is I think a Multi command rating will stand you in good stead. Firstly for safety and also in most aircraft even the most basic of single ie 206/210 etc you will have a VOR and ADF;you may as well do the odd approach here and there (in good conditions) on the boss just to keep your hand in you know.
If you can't afford an Instrument rating so be it. Many such as me in the past flogged around the sticks VFR for the first bit of our careers.
I don't want to start and arguement about cadetships here but I genuinely feel you will be better off following the go North young man path. Having said that I know some ex cadets who are now skippers with major airlines, so who can say what is best. Having said all that I never really answered your question did I. Pay who knows as soon there will be an over supplyof drivers chasing jobs. Less work around in general etc etc etc snzzzzzz, (who wants to sound like Ruddy). Anyway essentially pilots will start working like I did in the sticks for peanuts. Essentially you have to go bush I think these days.
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It is very hard if your a woman!
And as far as i know woman don't get paid!
Oh come on......that was funny!! Wasn't it?
And as far as i know woman don't get paid!
Oh come on......that was funny!! Wasn't it?
