L29 Overrun at North Shore NZ
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Framer, I think when he says "instructors at Nellis" he means the guy that taught him how to flip burgers at the local McDonalds in Vegas. Nobody that ignorant and incoherent would have got onto the base!
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Had I known it was an english class I would have taken the time to correctly format my paragraphs.
I guess I have no hope in passing the NZ english test to upgrade my PPL?
And it was actually Burger King.
I guess I have no hope in passing the NZ english test to upgrade my PPL?
And it was actually Burger King.
There is more to this than meets the eye!
The L29 has a total loss air system for the brakes. Prior to flight you have to pump enough air into the brake system from a dive bottle or similar source. The aircraft cannot recharge the air system any other way as it is not fitted with an air pump.
Rumour has it that an expert in jet operations from CAA advised the pilot how to get data to check if the machine could be flown from Dary Flat.
The L29 has a total loss air system for the brakes. Prior to flight you have to pump enough air into the brake system from a dive bottle or similar source. The aircraft cannot recharge the air system any other way as it is not fitted with an air pump.
Rumour has it that an expert in jet operations from CAA advised the pilot how to get data to check if the machine could be flown from Dary Flat.
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The L29 has a total loss air system for the brakes
Rumour has it that an expert in jet operations from CAA advised the pilot how to get data to check if the machine could be flown from Dary Flat
FWIW, basic takeoff distance (sea level, etc) is 600m.
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"You guys are all dangeous and foolish, And that makes you ... Dangerous!"
Dangeous?
OK I know what you mean, but there are some good comments and data based on experience, which as student pilot (from your profile) you should take note of.
check out the discussion on: Wings Over Cambridge - Incident at North Shore airfield
Dangeous?
OK I know what you mean, but there are some good comments and data based on experience, which as student pilot (from your profile) you should take note of.
check out the discussion on: Wings Over Cambridge - Incident at North Shore airfield
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The following link YouTube - L 29 Back Seat Video should perhaps be shown to the CAA investigation team. Interesting that he should be a.)low flying (he didn't look like his intention was to land at NS) b.) exceeding 250 knots below 10,000 AMSL
No wonder this guy came to grief.
accident waiting to happen.
Eye witness stated that the aircraft was practising high speed runs and the brakes were operating as the a/c went screaming past him as is a teastement to the rubber sqealing/smoke and black marks on the runway
No wonder this guy came to grief.
accident waiting to happen.
Eye witness stated that the aircraft was practising high speed runs and the brakes were operating as the a/c went screaming past him as is a teastement to the rubber sqealing/smoke and black marks on the runway
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haahahaha just watched the L29 video taking off from ardmore, was taking off on the centre line not covered on the flying the small jets 101 handbook?
Also just watched his L29 whangrei landing...
YouTube - L 29 Delfin Whangarei 29 Nov 2008
landing on the centre line was definately not in that book either.
Remind me not to get that book for my cpl subjects!
Also just watched his L29 whangrei landing...
YouTube - L 29 Delfin Whangarei 29 Nov 2008
landing on the centre line was definately not in that book either.
Remind me not to get that book for my cpl subjects!
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dear Mr Zissou
good clip
I understand the references
I drove past the "accident" site today.
Considering that the L29 entered a public road and continued along it for another 90 metres or so gives little comfort. If there had been passing traffic, or somebody walking their dog or riding a horse in this relatively peaceful rural environment, I am sure that their sense of humour would have been tested.
good clip
I understand the references
I drove past the "accident" site today.
Considering that the L29 entered a public road and continued along it for another 90 metres or so gives little comfort. If there had been passing traffic, or somebody walking their dog or riding a horse in this relatively peaceful rural environment, I am sure that their sense of humour would have been tested.
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perhaps it was 400 kmph... I am not sure how fast one of these things goes.
Interesting that both of the links have now been removed by the user.
Feeling a little guilty huh?
Interesting that both of the links have now been removed by the user.
Feeling a little guilty huh?
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Oh thats just great then, which means hes watching this thread.
Maybe after everyone in NZ and said their piece he may have just realised that he might need to take him self aside and give himself a talking to.
Oh hey and mods...........
why have you removed some of the posts in this thread.
Give a man a badge syndrome huh.
Let the thread take it course would ya!
Maybe after everyone in NZ and said their piece he may have just realised that he might need to take him self aside and give himself a talking to.
Oh hey and mods...........
why have you removed some of the posts in this thread.
Give a man a badge syndrome huh.
Let the thread take it course would ya!
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Inexperienced PPL in a jet haha what a grand idea! And there's no way the authorities are going to let this monkey import a Mig; He could hold the NZ airforce to ransom with it... if he could only land and takeoff properly.
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So when is this dude going to be doing his next "high speed taxi practice" any NE locals got any info.
Imagine the crater he could make with a Mig 21.
Imagine the crater he could make with a Mig 21.
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Jet crash during taxi check
North Shore Times | Thursday, 26 February 2009
The jet pilot involved in an accident at North Shore Airfield had earlier been asked to supply performance information before taking off from the airfield.
Abbas Shahroodi says he wasn’t trying to take off when his L29 Deflin military jet training plane crashed into a fence at the field earlier this month.
Mr Shahroodi says he was doing a high-speed taxi manoeuvre to gather information when his brakes failed.
North Shore Aero Club president Ian Couper says the Civil Aviation Authority became aware through the media about the plane’s presence at the airfield before Christmas.
Mr Couper says the authority requested information to ensure the aircraft could safely take off from the field.
He is satisfied Mr Shahroodi wasn’t trying to take off.
Mr Couper says the jet was the first of its type to land at the airfield but it landed safely with plenty of room to spare on the runway.
The cause of the accident in February has been the subject of extensive online speculation.
But Mr Shahroodi says it was a minor incident that has been blown out of proportion because of the type of aircraft involved.
He says most of the people speculating haven’t flown a jet and don’t know what they’re talking about.
The Civil Aviation Authority is investigating the cause of the accident.
So looks like the feds were on to him about getting it out of there before hand, fair enough too !
North Shore Times | Thursday, 26 February 2009
The jet pilot involved in an accident at North Shore Airfield had earlier been asked to supply performance information before taking off from the airfield.
Abbas Shahroodi says he wasn’t trying to take off when his L29 Deflin military jet training plane crashed into a fence at the field earlier this month.
Mr Shahroodi says he was doing a high-speed taxi manoeuvre to gather information when his brakes failed.
North Shore Aero Club president Ian Couper says the Civil Aviation Authority became aware through the media about the plane’s presence at the airfield before Christmas.
Mr Couper says the authority requested information to ensure the aircraft could safely take off from the field.
He is satisfied Mr Shahroodi wasn’t trying to take off.
Mr Couper says the jet was the first of its type to land at the airfield but it landed safely with plenty of room to spare on the runway.
The cause of the accident in February has been the subject of extensive online speculation.
But Mr Shahroodi says it was a minor incident that has been blown out of proportion because of the type of aircraft involved.
He says most of the people speculating haven’t flown a jet and don’t know what they’re talking about.
The Civil Aviation Authority is investigating the cause of the accident.
So looks like the feds were on to him about getting it out of there before hand, fair enough too !
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He says most of the people speculating haven’t flown a jet and don’t know what they’re talking about.
gather information
An idiot.
