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blah blah blah 1st Feb 2009 07:48

L29 Overrun at North Shore NZ
 
Damaged plane removed after runway crash - National - NZ Herald News

Launchpad McQuack 1st Feb 2009 08:02


A large number of fire fighters were at the scene, and had applied foam as a precaution, Mr Phillips said.
I'm curious...does the foam cause any damage to the aircraft and/or engine at all? Is it essential for smother the aircraft "as a precaution" or are the boys getting a little carried away, when the aircraft came to a suitable halt from which the pilot could easily walk away and no leaking fluids etc?

I haven't seen a pic of the aircraft but it sounds like the damage was minimal, happy to be corrected if that was not the case...

LP

CI300 1st Feb 2009 08:42

there was no foam used. .

Got the horn 1st Feb 2009 21:33

Wouldn't NE be a bit marginal for an L29? Even on a perfect day?

6080ft 1st Feb 2009 23:28

I watched that thing do circuits at whangarei on a warm day - looked very bloody marginal there too!

NZFlyingKiwi 2nd Feb 2009 05:30

I've watched it doing circuits at Ardmore a few times - needless to say the initial climb rate seems to leave a little to be desired. The owner has another one, -SSU. Damage doesn't look too bad in the photo although I suppose pictures don't always tell the whole story.

cribble 2nd Feb 2009 09:05

Mattath
Nobody made me Thread Prefect but...

If I wanted to read an unsubstantiated rant
(I heard....... the rumor was...... probably went thru the firewall cause he was .....)

I really would prefer half-decent spelling and grammar:

1. Try to use complete sentences (the first word generally starts with a capital letter; the sentence is often considered best ended with a full stop).
2. Try to use the words that don't make the sentence nonsense e.g don't use "cause" when you mean "because".

Apart from the English your post was pretty much a waste of bandwidth, better off in Jetblast or R&N.

Q300 3rd Feb 2009 01:05

Did you see the original Herald article? Did you see the picture on it?

http://www.pbase.com/garylowndes/ima...1/original.jpg

:D Only with Aunty Herald - that is not jet powered, it is not Czech made, it is not a military aircraft and it is not all that vintage. (Picture pinched from another forum, but seeing as it's now been changed...)

Much Ado 3rd Feb 2009 01:28

mattathm is having week off:ugh:

27/09 3rd Feb 2009 02:25


mattathm is having week off
Only a week!!!!!!!!

Judging from many of his/her other posts one could be forgiven if the time in the Sin Bin wasn't quite bit longer.

ZK-NSN 3rd Feb 2009 03:40

"Wouldn't NE be a bit marginal for an L29? Even on a perfect day?"

It would seem so.

Talk to the GBA boys about getting a cherokee 6 out of there on a warm day, let alone a low powered jet. would be interesting to see the performance figures.

sexy time 3rd Feb 2009 04:39

That piece of s**t and it's owner will hopefully go somewhere far far away and not put any one elses life at risk......

Brake failure - yeah right........an arrestor hook wouldn't have stopped that thing!

Q300 3rd Feb 2009 04:40



mattathm is having week off
Only a week!!!!!!!!

Judging from many of his/her other posts one could be forgiven if the time in the Sin Bin wasn't quite bit longer.
Yes well, from what I saw he was a bit trollish if I ever saw it, and I've only been here 5 minutes :}

Dairy Flat is hardly the longest runway around. If he was told he shouldn't be trying it, he shouldn't have tried it.

Cypher 3rd Feb 2009 04:54

From what I've heard and seen in a past newspaper article (North Shore Times Advertiser) .. the owner is a reasonably new PPL....

remoak 4th Feb 2009 03:26

Inexperienced rich boys and their toys... the continuing saga...

Slightly off-topic - wasn't the SSS rego worn by a Grumman Cougar? Anyone know what happened to it?

Corkey McFuz 4th Feb 2009 03:42

Yes that piece of junk is now Registered PAP but as of about a month ago has been grounded due corrosion on the main spar or similar and will never fly in the skys of nz again. Thank god :D

mattyj 4th Feb 2009 04:58

Yeah..being parted out on trademe last month..

..in defence of Mattathm..from what I've heard from other sources..everything he said about the owner is true.

..give him a break Mods..he has Tourettes in his fingers:}:}

remoak 4th Feb 2009 06:15

Did my multi Instrument rating in that piece of junk, 20-odd years ago. Horribly underpowered, but it did have a decent flight director and AP, Was pretty spiffy in those days (compared to say a Seneca 1 or an Aztec).

27/09 4th Feb 2009 09:15

Re: Sss, Tad?, Pap
 
Sorry for further thread drift


that piece of junk is now Registered PAP

will never fly in the skys of nz again. Thank god

Did my multi Instrument rating in that piece of junk, 20-odd years ago
Only flew it once, about 9 years ago. Seemed to me to be an OK aircraft especially as a multi IFR trainer, true not over powered, but certainly wouldn't have called it a heap of junk. Amazing how our perceptions differ.

Corkey McFuz 4th Feb 2009 10:29

Without intentionally drifting the thread further, it just ain't worth it's own thread, sorry :ok:

It might have been ok 9 years ago but isn't the best machine around now. Always breaking down, parts are hard to come by so out of the air a lot, things not working, things falling off, shabby this, ripped that etc etc need I go on ??

There would be more knobs/leavers/buttons etc in that plane without their handles/knobs whatever that there would be with them on :uhoh:

And to top it all off, it has been replaced by none other than VH-MEP, for those that know that old chariot :ugh: :}


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