Rex Cadet School Woes
Rex Cadet School Woes
One of the partners of the Rex cadet school at Mangalore (the airport owner) dropped a bombshell last Friday night when he anounced to the cadets that he was pulling out. The cadets were left to tell their management the news.
Left them high and dry. So the canteen is closed, no food provided for the cadets so meals (3 x daily) are brought up by cars from Seymour. But he still slugging them $375 per week (each)for a share accomodation in the barns, 8 students per barn. Nice little earner. Now no taxiways beig built etc etc. But he did find it prudent to name a street on the airport after himself.
Dont go for a walk in the woods, you never know what snakes you will find lurking in the shadows with their shady deals and outright blackmail. Some snakes like to give family holidays then put the hard word on them for land they own..........at 10c in the dollar. Refusal can mean a relations job in the woods suddenly doesnt exist anymore.
So we all sing "˙ou beter not go down to the woods to day..............".
Left them high and dry. So the canteen is closed, no food provided for the cadets so meals (3 x daily) are brought up by cars from Seymour. But he still slugging them $375 per week (each)for a share accomodation in the barns, 8 students per barn. Nice little earner. Now no taxiways beig built etc etc. But he did find it prudent to name a street on the airport after himself.
Dont go for a walk in the woods, you never know what snakes you will find lurking in the shadows with their shady deals and outright blackmail. Some snakes like to give family holidays then put the hard word on them for land they own..........at 10c in the dollar. Refusal can mean a relations job in the woods suddenly doesnt exist anymore.
So we all sing "˙ou beter not go down to the woods to day..............".
Nunc est bibendum
If true then it's an early and practical introduction into the harsh realities of the aviation industry. 
Welcome to the all too real world boys and girls!
Welcome to the all too real world boys and girls!
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But he still slugging them $375 per week (each)for a share accomodation in the barns, 8 students per barn.
Sad for the cadets if true that their training, such as it is, will be interrupted.
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Is any of the long timers/old salts who know better in here surprised? I doubt it!
Who said those famous words just before he was hung?.............."such is life"
Too true 'keg'
CW
Who said those famous words just before he was hung?.............."such is life"
Too true 'keg'
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I had a friend call the phone number a few weeks ago and he got the airport groundsmen. He left a message but didn't hear back????
The Civil Aviation Training Academy (CATA) is seeking Enthusiastic Flying Instructors to train Airline Cadets at its base at Mangalore Airport in Victoria.
I had a friend call the phone number a few weeks ago and he got the airport groundsmen. He left a message but didn't hear back????
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So now Rex has a decision to make...are they in business to be an airline or a flight school? They're not doing well trying to do both.
And the cadets have a big decision to make too...
And the cadets have a big decision to make too...
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The cadets should pack there bags and leave!!! REX management are the ones who have breached there so called flimsily training contract!!! The bottom line here is REX cant provide training for these future pilots and if they can it wont see them all with base CPLS by the end of the year!!!!
The only decsion the cadets have to make is do i leave tomorrow morning or now................
The only decsion the cadets have to make is do i leave tomorrow morning or now................
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I was excited at first, but now I am glad...
...that after looking into their 'cadetship' I decided to give it a big miss!
I think that any cadet who withdraws at this stage has a strong case for getting their $5K bond back.
I feel so sad when I consider Rex now. Due to my age I could easily settle down and fly my whole career with them, but at the moment - after reading posts from Krusty and Capt. Wal - I'm not even sure if they will be around to accept my application when I graduate!
I think I used enough emoticons there!
I think that any cadet who withdraws at this stage has a strong case for getting their $5K bond back.
I feel so sad when I consider Rex now. Due to my age I could easily settle down and fly my whole career with them, but at the moment - after reading posts from Krusty and Capt. Wal - I'm not even sure if they will be around to accept my application when I graduate!
I think I used enough emoticons there!
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OK.....
Here's my take on it all.....
LKH just gathered a whole lot of REX shares for a somewhat reduced price....$1.00( probably what there worth, but a whole cheaper than they used to be)
I thought, when I used to work there, that he was a smart business man....
Obviously not, he has believed the retoric from CH (the CP) that the cadets will save the airline.....
(Comment Deleted) You can't say that in here!!! Tail Wheel
In 12 months time their will be no REX or a very small version of due to a pack of shortsighted men who rather than moving with the times and paying pilots what their worth, were more interested in the bonus's....
If I were a cadet now, I would get out and save your hard earned, these dickheads could not run water in a bath.....!@!@!!
Here's my take on it all.....
LKH just gathered a whole lot of REX shares for a somewhat reduced price....$1.00( probably what there worth, but a whole cheaper than they used to be)
I thought, when I used to work there, that he was a smart business man....
Obviously not, he has believed the retoric from CH (the CP) that the cadets will save the airline.....
(Comment Deleted) You can't say that in here!!!
Tail WheelIn 12 months time their will be no REX or a very small version of due to a pack of shortsighted men who rather than moving with the times and paying pilots what their worth, were more interested in the bonus's....
If I were a cadet now, I would get out and save your hard earned, these dickheads could not run water in a bath.....!@!@!!
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"ABX' I feel somewhat saddened for you & others who had grand ideas for a future with REX. The harsh realities of it all are obvious. The once great Co. Kendell (check spelling as the spelling police will be here for sure) has now thru the new Co. degenerated into a total disaster just waiting to completly end with few respecting their ways.
It's a new world as far as aviation training & careers go, tread carefully to all those that go after us that did it the hard way but the best way.
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It's a new world as far as aviation training & careers go, tread carefully to all those that go after us that did it the hard way but the best way.
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its a shame, i could quite happily spend the rest of my flying career with REX in the Saab. i have no real aspiration to fly the bigger systems machines, though the thought of working for REX and the management just wont let me do it.
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ABX
It seems that in your past replys to rex posts you support virgin comming to town and go on about Rex being not that great, best you dont apply for a job as you would most likley not enjoy it. The company does have issues but the majority of the people enjoy the flying. From your profile and website you most likely dont have to worry about joining rex any more.
It seems that in your past replys to rex posts you support virgin comming to town and go on about Rex being not that great, best you dont apply for a job as you would most likley not enjoy it. The company does have issues but the majority of the people enjoy the flying. From your profile and website you most likely dont have to worry about joining rex any more.
OK. So one of the partners at Mangalore has dropped out. Do we know any more? C'mon REX management. How about a press release and put an end to the speculation. But more urgently, put an end to the agony of the impressionable young people who swallowed your collective bullsh!t!
shooter, where are you? Care to comment.
shooter, where are you? Care to comment.
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G'day aerocom,
How about you go and play on the freeway or take a long walk on a short pier.
I do support DJ coming to Albury, it might just turn out to be a good thing for the local community. Most of us grown ups would see that limited criticism of Rex does not mean that my opinion is along the lines of "Rex being not that great". Try to keep up please mate.
I have dreamt of flying for Rex for years, only a lack of fun tickets has prevented me from doing it earlier. It would be nice if a 38 year old like me could work for a company like Rex for 20 years or so, however the company - much like yourself - is not making many friends at the moment.
How about you go and play on the freeway or take a long walk on a short pier.
...you support virgin coming to town and go on about Rex being not that great...
I have dreamt of flying for Rex for years, only a lack of fun tickets has prevented me from doing it earlier. It would be nice if a 38 year old like me could work for a company like Rex for 20 years or so, however the company - much like yourself - is not making many friends at the moment.
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hmmmmmm....... I guess this all means that I may be waiting a while to hear a response in regards to my application for the Cadetship doesn't it.
I too would like to know exactly where this issue actually leaves the program.
I too would like to know exactly where this issue actually leaves the program.
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Rex 'issues'
I work for a large emergency service and yes, management are crap, but the saving grace is the staff at the front who roll their sleeves up day in day out and do the work they love. They leave the politics and rubbish because its not worth it.
Sadly the aviation industry is NOT alone, nor is it unique. Interestingly the other common trait is a group of whining, bitter and twisted individuals who seem intent on spreading their poor attitudes to people new to the industry or trying to start. Let people make up their own minds. Stop treating this forum like a school yard.
Yes they have a range of issues and yes the flying school has taken some time and has teething problems. Big deal, the catering has gone...thats why you sub contract another company.
What you disgruntled, dare-say envious people need to realise that unlike you, we have no other option to fulfil our dream to fly than to join such a program. I could not give a rats arse how or who feeds me - bring on the flying. You have had your chance and are in the industry. Leave us to have our chance.
Hearing you say such negative things makes me more determined to continue to aim for a start. Sadly somewhere along the way, the reason you guys started in the industry has been lost. If its that bad - leave. You are either past your prime or have been rejected so often you are twisted.
As with my current employer, people like you and your attitude all begin to sound the same. You don't offer any real solutions nor do you get off your ass and try to actively participate in a solution.
Say what you like in reply, but I bet its yet another, childish, negative , management bashing comment. Something alpha male that requires the approval of fellow neanderthals who are just as bitter. Get some original material.
Sadly the aviation industry is NOT alone, nor is it unique. Interestingly the other common trait is a group of whining, bitter and twisted individuals who seem intent on spreading their poor attitudes to people new to the industry or trying to start. Let people make up their own minds. Stop treating this forum like a school yard.
Yes they have a range of issues and yes the flying school has taken some time and has teething problems. Big deal, the catering has gone...thats why you sub contract another company.
What you disgruntled, dare-say envious people need to realise that unlike you, we have no other option to fulfil our dream to fly than to join such a program. I could not give a rats arse how or who feeds me - bring on the flying. You have had your chance and are in the industry. Leave us to have our chance.
Hearing you say such negative things makes me more determined to continue to aim for a start. Sadly somewhere along the way, the reason you guys started in the industry has been lost. If its that bad - leave. You are either past your prime or have been rejected so often you are twisted.
As with my current employer, people like you and your attitude all begin to sound the same. You don't offer any real solutions nor do you get off your ass and try to actively participate in a solution.
Say what you like in reply, but I bet its yet another, childish, negative , management bashing comment. Something alpha male that requires the approval of fellow neanderthals who are just as bitter. Get some original material.
Gidday "Gavin".
Your passion is admirable, but I'm afraid you have missed the point. The very fact that many on this forum have been in the industry for many years is exactly why the opinions they offer should be listened to.
I'll give you another scenerio. Once upon a time passionate young people strived for the coveted position of pilot, be it airline or otherwise. Finally, after years of hard work and sacrifice, they achieve their goal. Still ambitious and craving further personal developement, they sieze the opportunity to move into Check and Training, and some then move into management. Once in the hallowed halls of power they build their empire and give a return of service quite often commensurate with the elevated remuneration they now recieve. It becomes apparent however that the very reason they started in this game, (the love of flying) has now become just a memory. The time and dedication required for this new role consumes not only their working lives, but a great deal of their private lives as well. Political and idealogical dogma now give way to the pragmatic and open mind that they once posessed. Agendas, either of their own making or driven from further above now steer the drection of the company.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the people who are charged with the day to day operation of a once great organisation can see the threads unravelling. They can see no light from the ivory tower, and their opinions on how to effectively deal with the situation have fallen on deaf ears. The great machine of superior thinking is in full flight, and sadly the only thing that will arrest it's momentum will be the sudden stop at the base of the cliff. Think it can't happen? Think the people at the top truely have a grasp of the current crisis? Just have look at recent events in the financial sector.
So I guess my dear Captain, you are not the only one with passion. some have passion for doing the best job they can, others have passion for ambition and power. At any cost! You make the point that you are new to the industry. I sincerely wish you the greatest of luck. You also make the assumption that some of us are past our prime. Well I've got news for you. To ignore the collective experience of those here, and to dismiss it as simply sour grapes, is to fall into the same catagory as those to whom you are attempting to defend.
I's not about management bashing. It's about what will save REX. If you cannot see that, then you surely do have a long way to go.
Your passion is admirable, but I'm afraid you have missed the point. The very fact that many on this forum have been in the industry for many years is exactly why the opinions they offer should be listened to.
I'll give you another scenerio. Once upon a time passionate young people strived for the coveted position of pilot, be it airline or otherwise. Finally, after years of hard work and sacrifice, they achieve their goal. Still ambitious and craving further personal developement, they sieze the opportunity to move into Check and Training, and some then move into management. Once in the hallowed halls of power they build their empire and give a return of service quite often commensurate with the elevated remuneration they now recieve. It becomes apparent however that the very reason they started in this game, (the love of flying) has now become just a memory. The time and dedication required for this new role consumes not only their working lives, but a great deal of their private lives as well. Political and idealogical dogma now give way to the pragmatic and open mind that they once posessed. Agendas, either of their own making or driven from further above now steer the drection of the company.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, the people who are charged with the day to day operation of a once great organisation can see the threads unravelling. They can see no light from the ivory tower, and their opinions on how to effectively deal with the situation have fallen on deaf ears. The great machine of superior thinking is in full flight, and sadly the only thing that will arrest it's momentum will be the sudden stop at the base of the cliff. Think it can't happen? Think the people at the top truely have a grasp of the current crisis? Just have look at recent events in the financial sector.
So I guess my dear Captain, you are not the only one with passion. some have passion for doing the best job they can, others have passion for ambition and power. At any cost! You make the point that you are new to the industry. I sincerely wish you the greatest of luck. You also make the assumption that some of us are past our prime. Well I've got news for you. To ignore the collective experience of those here, and to dismiss it as simply sour grapes, is to fall into the same catagory as those to whom you are attempting to defend.
I's not about management bashing. It's about what will save REX. If you cannot see that, then you surely do have a long way to go.
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Do not / have never worked for REX, have no opinion.
Capt Stoobing,
You speak of fulfilling your dream to fly, blah blah blah, yet are critical of some on this web site, perhaps there is a different spin on this that you may not have considered:
Those that have made the sacrifice to persue aviation, have left their "other careers" many years ago and made the first step in a long journey, a step that you appear not to have taken, so i am not quite sure that you really have the right to judge.
To say the only way your dream can be realised is by a cadetship is complete tripe, this is embodied by your inability to take the first step, i would agree its perhaps the easiest path but certainly not the only path.
Lets assume you are an ambo officer, how much are you paid P/A, then compare that to an FO in a Cadetship, ouch !!!.
With your EMS job, you get paid well ?, the job is satisfying ?, and secure ? ( albeit the management go down a path you do not understand ).
Many people, who i think have made the right choice, either can not or choose not to commit themselves to being a Pilot, whether by lack of stones or a balanced assesment.
For some here, they feel they are not paid well, they love their job but see the axeman waiting in the distance and due to the axeman they do not see job security ( just my interpretation of what is being said ).
Passion without action is just hot air.
Capt Stoobing,
You speak of fulfilling your dream to fly, blah blah blah, yet are critical of some on this web site, perhaps there is a different spin on this that you may not have considered:
Those that have made the sacrifice to persue aviation, have left their "other careers" many years ago and made the first step in a long journey, a step that you appear not to have taken, so i am not quite sure that you really have the right to judge.
To say the only way your dream can be realised is by a cadetship is complete tripe, this is embodied by your inability to take the first step, i would agree its perhaps the easiest path but certainly not the only path.
Lets assume you are an ambo officer, how much are you paid P/A, then compare that to an FO in a Cadetship, ouch !!!.
With your EMS job, you get paid well ?, the job is satisfying ?, and secure ? ( albeit the management go down a path you do not understand ).
Many people, who i think have made the right choice, either can not or choose not to commit themselves to being a Pilot, whether by lack of stones or a balanced assesment.
For some here, they feel they are not paid well, they love their job but see the axeman waiting in the distance and due to the axeman they do not see job security ( just my interpretation of what is being said ).
Passion without action is just hot air.