Surveillance Australia - Pay/Bonuses !!!

[KRUSTY 34]

The problem with making a bonus temporary (even for 3 years) is that it will lose some of it's effect. Most people are looking for long term stability, especially as we get older (wife,kids, schools etc..) The demographic of the "experienced " pilot has advanced over the years, and it is these people that operators need to attract/retain. Stability, I would think should be a priority for business also!

Almost without exception we have all climbed the aviation ladder, moving from one job to another, building experience and in most cases increasing our pay packet along the way. There comes a time however when we look at a company and ask, will this enable me to provide a future for my family? If the answer is yes, done deal.

If the deal that you signed up for has the possibility of a 50% pay-cut after 3 years, then what sort of deal is that?

Beware of managers bearing gifts people.

[flyitboy]

Good comments 'krusty'..............as we get older we tend to look more at what a Co. offers apart from the renunmeration.
I believe that SAPL (or Co's like it) will always be struggling to secure pilots long term no matter what the type of carrot they offer.
There's a life after flying, keep that in mind when you settle down anywhere. Look at the whole picture, even tho the situation at present is bouyant we all know how aviation is much like an aerobatic ride, it's up, it's down, plan also for the turbulent times !

CW

[Diver Dan]

Even if the bonus were to stop after 3 years (very unlikely), you have made 200K over that time in bonus and then are on 115K guaranteed (CPI + 2%). The problem with that is............

It still seems like a good offer to me.

[KRUSTY 34]

Human nature Dan.

I know it sounds unbelievable, but try try taking a 50% pay-cut after 3 years. No matter how much you were on, It will cause a serious adjustment to one's lifestyle.

Stress, stress, stress.......

[Double Wasp]

How are these bonuses to be paid out? Will it be a lump sum at the end of each year or will it be spread out over a few months? How big of a chunk will go missing due to taxes?

[AerocatS2A]

A lump sum each year I think. If you don't want it taxed, put it into Super.

The tax will get squared up at tax time anyway, probably get a bit back.

[turbinejunkie]

SAPL

exmexican, just wanted to clarify some of your assumptions about me. I am no cadet - have done 8 years in industry so far, from one end of Oz to the other like so many other GA warriors who trapse far and wide to scrape out a living. Have done a bit more than pax from A to B too by the way.

If having had a gutful of being taken advantage of by employers and having little choice but to take what's given all along, fight for what I should be entitled to under the Award in the past and so on, then fine, I sure do have a bad attitude!

Perhaps I have an ego too, but I wouldn't have thought so after this long. Life has a funny old way of knocking any BS out of you quick smart if that's how you think you should operate.

I just would have thought that DEC was a possibility.

And BTW, I agree with LRT's assessment. Command is better than F/O unless you're talking jet, long, big and very, very shiny. I'd rather have a bit less dough and have better T&C's and lifestyle (place to live) personally than sell my soul out to the next manager waving a fistful of dollars that can be pulled at any time.

Beware children.



regards to all,

TJ

[KRUSTY 34]

I think turbinejunkie has hit it on the head. It took me 9 long years in GA to land my first regional job, then another 6+ before an oportunity at command. And we were all grateful!

Thank chr!st those days are gone. good for the soul maybe, but the younguns' of today wont accept that crap. If they had to, then they would probably be doing something else.

What a minute? They are doing something else! QED

Hope you find what you're looking for TJ. Just be careful you don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

[turbinejunkie]

Krusty, that's sound advice. Will do.

We live in interesting days indeed.

TJ

[gav_20022002]

average hours, 800-900 a yr

8 days in 28 off

[bumpydays]

They are about to go to a 6/3 roster, when the full compliment of crew are up and running the annual hours will be less than 800 pa

[Shark Slayer]

I heard that the policy on FIFO to be announced today ????

They must be keen, another big ad in todays Aust detailing travelling roadshows across the country !!!!

[gypsypilotwife]

Hi All,

We are a family with young school-age boys considering coming home to Oz to try for a position with Surveillance Australia.

Any info appreciated on availablility of staff accommodation for the FIFO Captains? Also, can FIFO Captains only commute from certain (local) cities? Any confirmation on rosters for FIFO Captains?

Thanks to all who respond.

[bumpydays]

Information Sessions

Saw this advertised you can get any info you want at one of these sessions or maybe use the details and contact them direct.

Friday Aust

Few flying jobs offer hands-on low level flying as part of a close knit small crew environment.
This role of national importance offers job security, lifestyle, competitive salaries, a range of
employment and working options whilst carrying out a task that makes a real difference.
Surveillance Australia’s fleet of highly modified Dash 8 aircraft is the front line of border
protection for Australia. Using leading edge surveillance technology we detect illegal activities
and national security threats under long term contract to the Australian Customs Service.
If you seek real training and fast merit based promotion as part of a highly professional team
supporting our country’s national security, Surveillance Australia wants to talk to you.
We will be recruiting throughout 2008. To show how this career could be your next big step,
Surveillance Australia will hold information sessions for prospective pilots in:
• Perth – Monday 25th February 2008
• Melbourne – Tuesday 26th February 2008
• Sydney – Wednesday 27th February 2008
• Brisbane – Thursday 28th February 2008
• Toowoomba – Friday 29th February 2008
• Adelaide – Monday 3rd March 2008
• Townsville – Wednesday 5th March 2008
• Cairns – Thursday 6th March 2008
• Darwin – Friday 7th March 2008
Full details of session times and locations are available from
www.surveillanceaustralia.com.au/pilots
Alternatively you can contact Jaya on 08 8154 5600
or email: [email protected]

[Capt Wally]

Will be interesting to see/hear the feedback from SA's roadshow over the country.


CW

[aero979]

FIFO

Captains have the option of fly in fly out from brisbane, sydney, melbourne, adelaide and perth. If you wish to live in a rural area get yourself to one of these centres and SAPL will look after the rest.

Accomodation is provided while you are working. A daily allowance is also offered if you are not flying, eg on Stand by. Normal overnight allowances if overnighting in say Weipa.

FIFO will cost some of your bonus, a figure has not been decided upon yet. To save on the tax start salary sacrificing everything, this will bring your total income into a lower tax bracket and therefore less tax! Cars, computers, jepps etc are all available on this scheme.

The bonuses will be paid annually in a lump sum on December 31st.

any other questions pm me. Surveillance is a good place to be.

[Aussie]

Out of curiosity, are ya seeing any guys from jets going back to Props to fly for SA?

[Shark Slayer]

Yes !!!!!!!!!!

[Stationair8]

With the FIFO bit, how long are the tours and which bases?

[gas-chamber]

Plenty guys seeing the light now that turboprop salaries are getting real. Much better lifestyle, generally. I know three guys just gave up jet jobs for FIFO work.