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SIM And Interview
I have my day on the 6th of May
Very nervous have not done any IF for 8 years
And am not the best at interviews
fingers crossed
Charlie Uniform Mike ...when did you find out they are doing the sim ride on the Q400
Very nervous have not done any IF for 8 years
And am not the best at interviews
fingers crossed
Charlie Uniform Mike ...when did you find out they are doing the sim ride on the Q400
Stormynights, I recommend you fly as much IF as you possibly can before your sim ride. The standard they are looking for does not vary, and no allowance is made for recent experience. It matters not if youve been flying on instruments six hours a day, six days a week for the six months leading up to the sim check, or if you havent flown in six years.... you're all tested against the same benchmark.
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Lasior.......
With all due respect, that does not sound correct. There is a PPRUNE post above from someone who has no CIR, and yet they are going into the sim. They are looking for ability to adapt.
With all due respect, that does not sound correct. There is a PPRUNE post above from someone who has no CIR, and yet they are going into the sim. They are looking for ability to adapt.
To be more accurate, the simulator check is done by a training captain who only has the barest details of your experience.
If you dont have an instrument rating, he'll know about that, but he doesnt know if you're IFR current, or your experience.
His comments are passed on to the interview panel, and these are the people who look at your logbook and can take into account recent experience.
As for being in Jabiru, even flight sim on the computer is better than nothing!
If you dont have an instrument rating, he'll know about that, but he doesnt know if you're IFR current, or your experience.
His comments are passed on to the interview panel, and these are the people who look at your logbook and can take into account recent experience.
As for being in Jabiru, even flight sim on the computer is better than nothing!
I don't want to burst any bubbles here but please!!!
QFLink are interviewing people that aren't even instrument current, and by a fair margin it seems. Either there will be some major allowances made or some people are in for a serious reality check. Not the least QFLink management.
Make no mistake people, IF currency is a skill, and like all skills even the most adaptable need to be familiar if they are to be considered proficient! Obviously do your best, but maybe things on the recruiting front are just a little worse than we all believe it to be!
QFLink are interviewing people that aren't even instrument current, and by a fair margin it seems. Either there will be some major allowances made or some people are in for a serious reality check. Not the least QFLink management.
Make no mistake people, IF currency is a skill, and like all skills even the most adaptable need to be familiar if they are to be considered proficient! Obviously do your best, but maybe things on the recruiting front are just a little worse than we all believe it to be!
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Well i hope that works for me
all my flying has been Vfr since i got my MECIR
glider towing and up untill recently thats all i have been doing
have the flying skills but is that enough
all my flying has been Vfr since i got my MECIR
glider towing and up untill recently thats all i have been doing
have the flying skills but is that enough
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Maths & English
Hi All
Just wondering, according to the Qantas website:
Qantaslink Trainee minimums are passes in yr 12 maths & english, with tertiary studies an advantage.
Qantaslink direct entry just require HSC (no mention of maths or english).
Qantas Mainline need passes in yr 12 maths & english OR a degree of any discipline.
I have a degree, but I didnt pass yr 12 english (how can shakespere help you fly an aircraft?). However, I am Australian born and bred. I dont have a second language, English is the one and only!
My question is: Would Qantaslink turn me back for the trainee program due to my poor yr 12 english?
Cheers
BF
Just wondering, according to the Qantas website:
Qantaslink Trainee minimums are passes in yr 12 maths & english, with tertiary studies an advantage.
Qantaslink direct entry just require HSC (no mention of maths or english).
Qantas Mainline need passes in yr 12 maths & english OR a degree of any discipline.
I have a degree, but I didnt pass yr 12 english (how can shakespere help you fly an aircraft?). However, I am Australian born and bred. I dont have a second language, English is the one and only!
My question is: Would Qantaslink turn me back for the trainee program due to my poor yr 12 english?
Cheers
BF
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Butterfingers, I have no idea how shakespere, nor shakespeare helps you fly a "plan" either.
But my believes are that the Year 12 passes are only there for those that don't have a degree.
But my believes are that the Year 12 passes are only there for those that don't have a degree.
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How was Melbourne?
Gday Guys,
Would be interested to hear from any of the guys that have been to Melbourne or are in Melb at the moment completing their training.
How did you find/are you finding the course?
I believe it is a pretty intense course. How are you enjoying the course, how are the facilities, accomodation etc etc.
Im sure that there are lots of interested people that would love to hear all about it.
Cheers
Would be interested to hear from any of the guys that have been to Melbourne or are in Melb at the moment completing their training.
How did you find/are you finding the course?
I believe it is a pretty intense course. How are you enjoying the course, how are the facilities, accomodation etc etc.
Im sure that there are lots of interested people that would love to hear all about it.
Cheers
Butterfingers - If you have a degree, it's a fair assumption to make that you have passed your HSC or VCE.
If you're in Melbourne, I assume you passed VCE, and that in itself guarantees you passed year 12 English. You dont have to have done very well in it - under the victoria system, simply turning up to every exam and handing in every assignment means you pass.
There's a lot more to "english" than shakespeare, too
If you're in Melbourne, I assume you passed VCE, and that in itself guarantees you passed year 12 English. You dont have to have done very well in it - under the victoria system, simply turning up to every exam and handing in every assignment means you pass.
There's a lot more to "english" than shakespeare, too
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If you're in Melbourne, I assume you passed VCE, and that in itself guarantees you passed year 12 English. You dont have to have done very well in it - under the victoria system, simply turning up to every exam and handing in every assignment means you pass.
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Lasiorhinus, I actually did my schooling in Adelaide, so no VCE. Also, I got into uni as a mature age student, so school marks were not relevent, I just had to pass the entry exam.
When you live....
Deed of agreement
As others have speculated, time must be approaching where the first (if not second) group are getting close to the end of the 'traineeship' part of the process.
My curiosity is to whether anyone has not been accepted into Qantaslink. If you read the bumpf on both the Qantas website and on the FAQs, the traineeship is no guarantee of Qantaslink employment - it merely gives you the minimums to be considered for employment.
It would be interesting to know if/how/why they would let you get to the end of the GFS course, refuse to accept you for a job, then send you the bill for the traineeship. Can anyone enlighten me? Does anyone else see this as a potential issue?
On one hand it would seem silly to get someone that far (and assuming they haven't stuffed up the GFS course or otherwise bollocks something up) only then to say thanks but no thanks but on the other, they would appear to be well within their rights to flunk all/any at that stage if they feel like it at no cost to themselves other than the loss of a slot.
I'm in the position of being 'on the list' for GFS but haven't yet seen the full paperwork. Anyone got any goss? Did anyone get legal opinion on the deed?
Cheers,
UTR.
My curiosity is to whether anyone has not been accepted into Qantaslink. If you read the bumpf on both the Qantas website and on the FAQs, the traineeship is no guarantee of Qantaslink employment - it merely gives you the minimums to be considered for employment.
It would be interesting to know if/how/why they would let you get to the end of the GFS course, refuse to accept you for a job, then send you the bill for the traineeship. Can anyone enlighten me? Does anyone else see this as a potential issue?
On one hand it would seem silly to get someone that far (and assuming they haven't stuffed up the GFS course or otherwise bollocks something up) only then to say thanks but no thanks but on the other, they would appear to be well within their rights to flunk all/any at that stage if they feel like it at no cost to themselves other than the loss of a slot.
I'm in the position of being 'on the list' for GFS but haven't yet seen the full paperwork. Anyone got any goss? Did anyone get legal opinion on the deed?
Cheers,
UTR.
Sorry I can't give you an answer on that one UndereathTheRadar, but welcome to the wonderful world of airline (especially QF) people management.
Couple of years ago a collegue of mine was sitting on the infamous Qantas hold file. After 12 months of uncertainty, they finally called him up. He had to jump through a few repeat hoops and with that sucessfuly completed, was litteraly days away from an offer. Then nothing! After some weeks a letter arrived stating that there were now a large number of applicants superior to his and he was now no longer competitive. Gone, done and dusted! No amount of phone calls or emails could get him any answers. Chr!st, he even had a mate in Check and Training! Some time later he was accepted by CX. Their gain was most certainly QF's (and Australia's) loss. This sort of behaviour is typical of the contempt that has been shown to pilots over the years.
The reason for not offering a garrentee of employment is just another way of QF management hedgeing their bets. Keep em' guessing and in their place. God help us if they (pilots) ever think that we really need them!
Having said that, unless a candidate of the traineeship fails the program, or shows some obvious undesireable traits, I am quite sure that QFLink would in fact employ them at the end. These days they need all the pilots they can get!
Couple of years ago a collegue of mine was sitting on the infamous Qantas hold file. After 12 months of uncertainty, they finally called him up. He had to jump through a few repeat hoops and with that sucessfuly completed, was litteraly days away from an offer. Then nothing! After some weeks a letter arrived stating that there were now a large number of applicants superior to his and he was now no longer competitive. Gone, done and dusted! No amount of phone calls or emails could get him any answers. Chr!st, he even had a mate in Check and Training! Some time later he was accepted by CX. Their gain was most certainly QF's (and Australia's) loss. This sort of behaviour is typical of the contempt that has been shown to pilots over the years.
The reason for not offering a garrentee of employment is just another way of QF management hedgeing their bets. Keep em' guessing and in their place. God help us if they (pilots) ever think that we really need them!
Having said that, unless a candidate of the traineeship fails the program, or shows some obvious undesireable traits, I am quite sure that QFLink would in fact employ them at the end. These days they need all the pilots they can get!