Surv Aust BN2B & Reims
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Any old stories?
Like how effective they were in the late nineties and beyond.
Chinee steel boat landed Holloways Beach
Brudda boat bilong him mouth of Pennefather River
Big Sista boat made it through to cockroach country somewhere near Newcastle.
Not to mention the Indos
Seem to recall there were some Coastwatch bongo bases along that stretch of ocean.
Chinee steel boat landed Holloways Beach
Brudda boat bilong him mouth of Pennefather River
Big Sista boat made it through to cockroach country somewhere near Newcastle.
Not to mention the Indos
Seem to recall there were some Coastwatch bongo bases along that stretch of ocean.
Well, I've waited more than a decade to ask two questions:
- How did Wazza make the Bongo Van comply with the original Customs RFP Visual Task, which required 650 track miles with additional avionics etc, one pilot, two observers, one Customs officer, a dog and one cubic meter of cargo capacity?
- Why did Wazza change the surveillance radar, heart of the off shore task, two days after the original Contract was signed with Customs?
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Max weight???
I remember one survey operation that used BN2's that had lots of electronics built in and an underwing fuel tank on each side. They flew with a pilot and an electronics operator.
When the tanks were all full of fuel and no-one was in the aeroplane it was 30 pounds over max takeoff weight.
When the tanks were all full of fuel and no-one was in the aeroplane it was 30 pounds over max takeoff weight.
SAPL BN2s can take full fuel and one crew member (pilot!) Each additional person means less fuel.
Edit: Only the Darwin BN2 and F406 are out of service, the others are due to be retired over the next few months.
Edit: Only the Darwin BN2 and F406 are out of service, the others are due to be retired over the next few months.
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Bushy was that the trilander you were thinking of? I did many hours in the bugger with the clothesline around it, and the deployable bird that you couldn't see on retreival. You could tell it was in the cradle when you got the loud thump. Geez I hated that aircraft, loud, tight, slow and no fun at 400 foot with that torpedo trailing it.
Don't know about the overweight call though, just know we couldn't fill it and the Shorts Skyvan was joy compared to it, which is saying something. It died a slow death at Jandakot and know doubt is still sitting around rotting.
As to the BN2 I'm glad I don't have to sit in that anymore too. Still it did what it needed to do well and me and pittsboy had fun didn't we?
Ahh the best of british aviation.
Don't know about the overweight call though, just know we couldn't fill it and the Shorts Skyvan was joy compared to it, which is saying something. It died a slow death at Jandakot and know doubt is still sitting around rotting.
As to the BN2 I'm glad I don't have to sit in that anymore too. Still it did what it needed to do well and me and pittsboy had fun didn't we?
Ahh the best of british aviation.
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Shanty, you said:
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Like how effective they were in the late nineties and beyond.
Chinee steel boat landed Holloways Beach
Brudda boat bilong him mouth of Pennefather River
Big Sista boat made it through to cockroach country somewhere near Newcastle.
Not to mention the Indos
Seem to recall there were some Coastwatch bongo bases along that stretch of ocean."
well i would just like thank thank you for clearly stating and showing that you have absolutely no idea on the concept of maratime surveillance or how it works.
you wouldnt know about the 90% drop in illegal fishing in australian waters over the past 18mths would you. or the other such instances where vessels have been detected BEFORE they have even reached our waters. have a close look at the islander and the Reims. they are whats called a VISUAL platform by that meaning the observers use a mk.1 eyeball. or do they have the over the hozizon radar mounted in there somewhere and someone forgot to tell me about it?
over 12 yrs of service yes your right some did get through. tell me...how many do you think would of gotten through if they werent out there flying?
once again well done champ.
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Like how effective they were in the late nineties and beyond.
Chinee steel boat landed Holloways Beach
Brudda boat bilong him mouth of Pennefather River
Big Sista boat made it through to cockroach country somewhere near Newcastle.
Not to mention the Indos
Seem to recall there were some Coastwatch bongo bases along that stretch of ocean."
well i would just like thank thank you for clearly stating and showing that you have absolutely no idea on the concept of maratime surveillance or how it works.
you wouldnt know about the 90% drop in illegal fishing in australian waters over the past 18mths would you. or the other such instances where vessels have been detected BEFORE they have even reached our waters. have a close look at the islander and the Reims. they are whats called a VISUAL platform by that meaning the observers use a mk.1 eyeball. or do they have the over the hozizon radar mounted in there somewhere and someone forgot to tell me about it?
over 12 yrs of service yes your right some did get through. tell me...how many do you think would of gotten through if they werent out there flying?
once again well done champ.
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I remember the Trislander, and regret that I did not get a photo of it. It was without doubt the ugliest aircraft I have ever seen.
But the survey aircraft I was referring to were BN2's and had an extra fuel tank mounted under each wing.
I remember the Trislander, and regret that I did not get a photo of it. It was without doubt the ugliest aircraft I have ever seen.
But the survey aircraft I was referring to were BN2's and had an extra fuel tank mounted under each wing.
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Bushy, I'll see if I can dig a photo up somewhere. Maybe we can start a thread on ugliest aircraft ever seen. I reckon with the Skyvan, Fletcher and the Trilander I'd be close to winning. Any idea who was survey operator of the BN2 was, would actually do well given airspeed, stol ability.
Oh and to any of the current SA mob, any idea when the Reims are leaving?
Oh and to any of the current SA mob, any idea when the Reims are leaving?
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"well i would just like to thank you for clearly stating and showing you have absolutely no idea on the concept of maratime (sic) surveillance or how it works"
Married to ex surveillance person from the Straits, brudda
mark 1 eyeball.....Rubbish!!
IFR twin time is the governing factor, not all VFR.
Man in boat, " look,there`s Coastwatch going by, must be 10.15"
How ridiculous to have operations in the Straits where the only islands you could or would land at for checks are YKI and of course HID.
At least the Boot had the balls to land at MAA. even if the coconut tree got in the way.
Waste of taxpayers hard earned!.
Married to ex surveillance person from the Straits, brudda
mark 1 eyeball.....Rubbish!!
IFR twin time is the governing factor, not all VFR.
Man in boat, " look,there`s Coastwatch going by, must be 10.15"
How ridiculous to have operations in the Straits where the only islands you could or would land at for checks are YKI and of course HID.
At least the Boot had the balls to land at MAA. even if the coconut tree got in the way.
Waste of taxpayers hard earned!.
Ah, married to an ex Surveillance person, therefore an expert on the topic.
You would know then that IFR doesn't mean IMC. And that IMC means "off task, go home." So, yeah it's the Mark I eyeball (or Mark II for me, I've got enhancements.)
You would also know about all of the inbounds that get caught. Or the inbounds that get spotted but are unable to be caught due to a lack of available government resources.
And you would know that other countries including PNG have agricultural diseases that could destroy entire industries in Australia if they were to get a foothold here.
You would also know that Australia has an absolutely huge coastline that cannot be kept entirely secure at reasonable cost. So the best is done with what is available. This means that there can't be an aeroplane everywhere all the time, it also means that when illegals (either fishing or otherwise) are spotted there may not be a response vessel to do anything about it.
P.S.
If you're going to subtly nitpick other's spelling, at least do it properly. Sic should go in square brackets [] to indicate that the error was in the quoted material.
You would know then that IFR doesn't mean IMC. And that IMC means "off task, go home." So, yeah it's the Mark I eyeball (or Mark II for me, I've got enhancements.)
You would also know about all of the inbounds that get caught. Or the inbounds that get spotted but are unable to be caught due to a lack of available government resources.
And you would know that other countries including PNG have agricultural diseases that could destroy entire industries in Australia if they were to get a foothold here.
You would also know that Australia has an absolutely huge coastline that cannot be kept entirely secure at reasonable cost. So the best is done with what is available. This means that there can't be an aeroplane everywhere all the time, it also means that when illegals (either fishing or otherwise) are spotted there may not be a response vessel to do anything about it.
P.S.
"well i would just like to thank you for clearly stating and showing you have absolutely no idea on the concept of maratime (sic) surveillance or how it works"
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look,there`s Coastwatch going by, must be 10.15 ..
.. and let's not forget that the planning for each sortie is NOT done by the aircraft operator ..
For the few that have gotten through just imagine all of those that have not!
For the few that have gotten through just imagine all of those that have not!
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On that topic been living around and operating through the Straits and gulf since surveillance was flown in yellow AC50`s.
Seen a lot
Heard a lot
How do you miss eyeballing a rusty 70 foot steel boat, Coconut for Cairns?
Seen a lot
Heard a lot
How do you miss eyeballing a rusty 70 foot steel boat, Coconut for Cairns?