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Old 5th Sep 2007, 03:50
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I’m sorry but what you have said is aero club bar talk. Airlines will continue to employ pilots from a broad cross-section of the aviation community. All the MPL may do is change the way future cadets are trained and cadets after all have been around since the 60’s. Airlines need to through the net as far and wide to attract the pilots they need and at the same time keep pressure on terms and conditions, especially with the current pilot shortage world wide. Airlines will continue to employ pilots from the military, other airlines, GA and MPL (Cadet) schemes.
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 04:09
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Weigh up working for hopeless money for what it is you are trying to achieve in this industry. If the Airlines is where you are trying to go, put in those hard yards to get there, many many instructors have stuck at it at the local aeroclub around these parts and, made it into AirNZ and it's smaller carriers. It can be done, by being an instructor, so go do it, working as a storeman won't help you get into the airlines.
Or if it isn't for you, then don't moan about how bad it is and go do somethin else!
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 05:12
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Undergoing training for the MPL at your own expense would be a big risk unless you're assured of a job after training. Because of this, I think there would still be many pilots willing to go through the traditional GA path as this gives more career options than what the MPL has to offer.

As for instructor shortages ... well, I'm wondering how many trainee instructors are there in Melbourne currently? I've been trying to get a mutual partner to complete my training, but not much success thus far. (I need another 12 hours of mutual).
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 06:21
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404,

It's not aero club bar talk. The issue was raised with me by a flying school CEO who is facing that as a reality. The consequences may not arise as dire as they could be, but it is a real concern.

That schools who operate charter don't want to teach their CPLs to operate in multi-crew environments is also not bar talk. Ring them and ask them.

Who can say what will happen? What ever it is, the flight training environment is going to change in Australia (see Doug Nancarrow's editorial in Aviation Business) and there are probably going to be casualties.

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Old 5th Sep 2007, 10:00
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A perusal of my profile might enlighten you to my background. I have also been involved in recruitment in the past with my current employer here in Asia. The root cause of the problem for flying schools in Australia at present is too many schools scratching for too few students. When you take a look at the breakdown of student pilots over the last five years it becomes obvious that a larger and larger percentage of those students are foreign cadets. It is a fact that less Australians are training for a pilots licences and those that do have a licences are switching to RAAus to remain current as the cost of flying in GA has become prohibitive. Those schools that have traditionally trained cadets will have to establish a MPL course as that is what their client airlines will want. Those that don’t will wither away. I’m afraid the CEO person you have spoken too wants to blame the MPL, which by the way hasn’t yet started in Australia in any meaningful way, but soon will, for his/her own failings in recognising where the industry is going. I can assure you that my airline will continue to employ pilots from a broad cross-section of the aviation community. If they don’t T&C are likely to spiral out of control. Supply and demand at work.
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