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nt seen it in ages!!!
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I suggest you try the Bagot Community.
It is a small friendly close knit community of people and just the right place for itinerants (people like you).
It is situated right in the middle of suburbia Darwin and close to everything. It is just down the road from the airport and so very convenient for any pilot.
It is actually on the main road half way between the city and the Northern suburbs/Casuarina shopping complex/airport. It has its own bus stop with good transport links to all over Darwin.
I believe it even has its own "community" take away food store, otherwise McDonalds is only a 5 minute walk down the road. There are maybe also a few pay phones on site/on the main road so you can ring up for jobs/be in contact.
For those athletes, the complex even includes tennis/basketball courts with night lighting.
The local women their are also very friendly so you'll never be lonely.
This would be the perfect introduction to the Territory.
Accomodation is fairly cheap, as you can shack up with the locals for maybe a carton or beer otherwise you can just camp out anywhere in the open or in the street like many others freely do.
They have built a large fence around the complex to stop you wandering out on the main road and getting run over after you've had a few drinks too many.
It even has a locator beacon named after it, so you'll be reminded of the good old Bagot Community everytime you fly.
I suggest you give the Bagot Community a try.
It is a small friendly close knit community of people and just the right place for itinerants (people like you).
It is situated right in the middle of suburbia Darwin and close to everything. It is just down the road from the airport and so very convenient for any pilot.
It is actually on the main road half way between the city and the Northern suburbs/Casuarina shopping complex/airport. It has its own bus stop with good transport links to all over Darwin.
I believe it even has its own "community" take away food store, otherwise McDonalds is only a 5 minute walk down the road. There are maybe also a few pay phones on site/on the main road so you can ring up for jobs/be in contact.
For those athletes, the complex even includes tennis/basketball courts with night lighting.
The local women their are also very friendly so you'll never be lonely.
This would be the perfect introduction to the Territory.
Accomodation is fairly cheap, as you can shack up with the locals for maybe a carton or beer otherwise you can just camp out anywhere in the open or in the street like many others freely do.
They have built a large fence around the complex to stop you wandering out on the main road and getting run over after you've had a few drinks too many.
It even has a locator beacon named after it, so you'll be reminded of the good old Bagot Community everytime you fly.
I suggest you give the Bagot Community a try.
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Lived in a house on stilts in Nemarluk Drive back in 1979 and used to hear the sounds of fun and jollity on welfare cheque nights even with the windows closed!!
Women and Children screaming, smashing glass, men yelling abuse at all in sundry. I'm sure you get the picture.
Never ever thought that it would be almost thirty years before some attempt would be made to fix the problem. (Wish there was a smilie to signify a weary shake of the head)
Women and Children screaming, smashing glass, men yelling abuse at all in sundry. I'm sure you get the picture.
Never ever thought that it would be almost thirty years before some attempt would be made to fix the problem. (Wish there was a smilie to signify a weary shake of the head)
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Erin
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Every female that was murdered in the NT last 12 months was aboriginal
Sydney - The central Australian tourist town of Alice Springs could claim the world record for stabbings, a doctor said on Tuesday.
Chief of surgery at Alice Springs Hospital Jacob Ollapallil said most stab victims were Aboriginal women and almost a third of them were drunk when they were brought in.
"We spend a lot of resources to treat these patients but we are not looking past the surgical department and the emergency department to see what's a cause for these trauma cases," Ollapallil said.
"In all health issues, traumatic injury and death are the most preventable."
Around 2 000 Aborigines live in shacks in Alice Springs, almost all of them relying on welfare.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...4930423C868206
Nothing should be done?
Every female that was murdered in the NT last 12 months was aboriginal
Sydney - The central Australian tourist town of Alice Springs could claim the world record for stabbings, a doctor said on Tuesday.
Chief of surgery at Alice Springs Hospital Jacob Ollapallil said most stab victims were Aboriginal women and almost a third of them were drunk when they were brought in.
"We spend a lot of resources to treat these patients but we are not looking past the surgical department and the emergency department to see what's a cause for these trauma cases," Ollapallil said.
"In all health issues, traumatic injury and death are the most preventable."
Around 2 000 Aborigines live in shacks in Alice Springs, almost all of them relying on welfare.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_i...4930423C868206
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So Erin... enlighten us with your solution. I'm sure that many pilots who have done their time in the bush AND lived in the communities AND evac'ed the results of abuse AND live through the daily chaos are all ears.
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There is a solution, but the bleeding hearts are not going to like it. My career has been wide and varied so I feel eligible to comment from my first hand experiences.
Mr. Hat is on the right track. Welfare is the problem. It causes dependency on the government; self esteem issues; no purpose for existing day to day; boredom; frustration; hopelessness; alcoholism; violence; abuse etc. If anyone has ever been on the dole then they would understand how lazy you can get. I was on it for 6 months and struggled to get out of bed at lunchtime by the end.
Now the hard part. It would take a generation to change. The children are the key.
Firstly we have to make all citizens of our great country equal. I would suggest calling Aboriginals - ‘Australians of Aboriginal decent’. We all have different backgrounds and heritage, but we are first and foremost Australians. No one wants to see other groups receive special treatment, nor want to receive special treatment themselves.
Next would be to regulate the welfare and eventually cut it off. Some communities were using the kid’s school attendance leveraged against the parent’s access to the clubs. We need to break the cycle where the children only see mum or dad going to a hole in the wall, receiving cash for doing nothing, spending most of it on gabling and alcohol, then fighting throughout the night. No wonder Aboriginal teens are so withdrawn from society. They can see their future is bleak, so what’s the point in living.
The challenge will be society realising that integration is what’s needed. Communities in their current states don’t work. There is no accountability, no real commerce, no individual ownership (which goes against their culture) or pride. No jobs which means no self worth. The days of living off the land are long gone. Consuming KFC and VB under a tree is as close as it gets in some communities.
Need to run but I might continue my thoughts later on. Do you really think the governments bandaid reaction to a problem that they created is the answer?
Mr. Hat is on the right track. Welfare is the problem. It causes dependency on the government; self esteem issues; no purpose for existing day to day; boredom; frustration; hopelessness; alcoholism; violence; abuse etc. If anyone has ever been on the dole then they would understand how lazy you can get. I was on it for 6 months and struggled to get out of bed at lunchtime by the end.
Now the hard part. It would take a generation to change. The children are the key.
Firstly we have to make all citizens of our great country equal. I would suggest calling Aboriginals - ‘Australians of Aboriginal decent’. We all have different backgrounds and heritage, but we are first and foremost Australians. No one wants to see other groups receive special treatment, nor want to receive special treatment themselves.
Next would be to regulate the welfare and eventually cut it off. Some communities were using the kid’s school attendance leveraged against the parent’s access to the clubs. We need to break the cycle where the children only see mum or dad going to a hole in the wall, receiving cash for doing nothing, spending most of it on gabling and alcohol, then fighting throughout the night. No wonder Aboriginal teens are so withdrawn from society. They can see their future is bleak, so what’s the point in living.
The challenge will be society realising that integration is what’s needed. Communities in their current states don’t work. There is no accountability, no real commerce, no individual ownership (which goes against their culture) or pride. No jobs which means no self worth. The days of living off the land are long gone. Consuming KFC and VB under a tree is as close as it gets in some communities.
Need to run but I might continue my thoughts later on. Do you really think the governments bandaid reaction to a problem that they created is the answer?
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Erin I don't for a moment see what is presently occuring with the cops and army intended to be a SOLUTION - however it seems to me a pretty good START however. I must be living on another planet if the take on their presence is the SOLUTION - let alone be expected to believe it (your quote) "should solve everything").
I was simply curious about your original post being '...1 liner +
... ', - it did'nt leave much to think over and I read it as if you didn't care/disagreed that something has finally commenced.
Where this goes....., well....., I think we are already hearing some of your points already openly debated in the powers to be, the media and around BBQs. I've been following the regular editorial from Noel Pearson in the weekend ozzie - he has been screaming solutions for well over a year
I was simply curious about your original post being '...1 liner +
... ', - it did'nt leave much to think over and I read it as if you didn't care/disagreed that something has finally commenced.Where this goes....., well....., I think we are already hearing some of your points already openly debated in the powers to be, the media and around BBQs. I've been following the regular editorial from Noel Pearson in the weekend ozzie - he has been screaming solutions for well over a year
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If people give you money why work?...... the result is no sense of purpose, no direction. No satisfaction. Worst thing is "mum dad uncle and aunty and everybody else do it like this so it must be right..."
Its a bad situation and a terrible waste. Something very very drastic needs to take place.
Its a bad situation and a terrible waste. Something very very drastic needs to take place.
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Lets not forget that the CDEP payments (dole payments) in remote communities stops next week as the federal government has finally woken up and killed the program. That means a lot less cash sloshing around those camps which I am thinking will translate into a lot less air travel between the various communities. Alas, all those confiscated key cards with the pin number scratched on it with a piece odf glass that you bush guys are holding will be worth nothing come next week.............
Could be on to something there tinnie.
Construction phase provides employment and some skills training in construction work.
Then the community can all get jobs and experience in retail.
All they'd need is a market.
Construction phase provides employment and some skills training in construction work.
Then the community can all get jobs and experience in retail.
All they'd need is a market.
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That's fantastic... my one liner to discreetly advertise something in Darwin has developed into a discussion about Bagot.... here i was thinking that there would be no replies..
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Northern Qld wouldn't be far behind NT for alcohol-induced trauma amonst our indigenous brethren. Noel Pearson has the right idea - kill welfare and put all Australians on the same footing, get rid of the existing 'poor me' handout culture for all ethnic backgrounds.
BTW, according to the definition, I am indigenous too - I was born here. (As were my parents, and theirs, and theirs, and theirs.)
BTW, according to the definition, I am indigenous too - I was born here. (As were my parents, and theirs, and theirs, and theirs.)