Alteon or Qantas?
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Airamerica is clearly a liar.
C182 to 737?
So with nothing more than single time ( as alluded to ) he has got a multi-engine instrument rating AND a 737 rating at the same time...bull.
On top of that has got a job with nothing more than 182 time and a 73 rating, absolute crap.
" and the subsequent line training was cut shorter thanks to my inability (sic) to adapt "
Pilots with many hours multi, t/prop or otherwise, more often than not, struggle a little with their first jet, but not Chuck Yeager here
This is a rumour network, not a bull network.
C182 to 737?
So with nothing more than single time ( as alluded to ) he has got a multi-engine instrument rating AND a 737 rating at the same time...bull.
On top of that has got a job with nothing more than 182 time and a 73 rating, absolute crap.
" and the subsequent line training was cut shorter thanks to my inability (sic) to adapt "
Pilots with many hours multi, t/prop or otherwise, more often than not, struggle a little with their first jet, but not Chuck Yeager here
This is a rumour network, not a bull network.
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This is not an unqualified statement, it is a common risk management strategy in any complex, high risk operation. In times of skills shortages, experience levels will drop, and systems must be employed to reduce risk.
Since when is being an airline pilot a complex high risk operation?
I wonder what the hell they paid me for all these years?
I must speak to the President of the Walter Mitty Club!
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I can't really see it making much difference, it's a 73, not the most demanding aircraft to fly, like all endorsements it's just a matter of getting used to it. I'd go the cheaper option and use the money you save to buy your mussus a ring..........you can never have too many brownie points
When you write a letter expressing interest in employment, the employer has to sum you up based on how well you present yourself. Because you have made contact through written communication, that all important first impression will be based on your written communication skills. If your written communication skills are poor, you will present poorly.
Similarly, on forums such as this one, the other readers will make judgements about you based on how you place written words on the screen. You have no other method to convey your point or attitude. If you cannot present a well reasoned argument, posses no written logic skills, cannot construct a sentence, cannot spell or punctuate, then the other readers are going to assume that you are not very bright, or worse.
When pilots are trying to fight to maintain their conditions of service, it is hard to convince management, the media and the public that we are highly skilled professionals when many on these forums display worse written communication skills than my twelve year old. A little discipline and care on the keyboard will help many on this board as individuals, and all of us as professional aviators.
Similarly, on forums such as this one, the other readers will make judgements about you based on how you place written words on the screen. You have no other method to convey your point or attitude. If you cannot present a well reasoned argument, posses no written logic skills, cannot construct a sentence, cannot spell or punctuate, then the other readers are going to assume that you are not very bright, or worse.
When pilots are trying to fight to maintain their conditions of service, it is hard to convince management, the media and the public that we are highly skilled professionals when many on these forums display worse written communication skills than my twelve year old. A little discipline and care on the keyboard will help many on this board as individuals, and all of us as professional aviators.
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Airamerica, you never once mentioned you had a MEIR and no, that is not what everybody does in Oz as it is expensive, not required for an Oz comm, and 99/100 will not get you a job any easier as not many operators will let a 170hr pilot loose in their cheiftain or C402, not to mention insurance requirements.
If you have done what you say then good luck to you and I do apologise for calling you a liar.
What I wont apologise for is calling you a tosser, because anybody who thinks there is no difference between flying a 182 and a 737 is dangerous, stupid ( making statements inferring no difference between swept and straight wings, .2 and 79 ton, really shows your lack of experience )and an accident waiting to happen, but I guess it does'nt matter since you're only in the right seat and hopefully stay there 'til your attitude changes.
Take that from someone who has a few 1000 hours training people ( left and right seat ) to fly 3 different types of jets.
If you have done what you say then good luck to you and I do apologise for calling you a liar.
What I wont apologise for is calling you a tosser, because anybody who thinks there is no difference between flying a 182 and a 737 is dangerous, stupid ( making statements inferring no difference between swept and straight wings, .2 and 79 ton, really shows your lack of experience )and an accident waiting to happen, but I guess it does'nt matter since you're only in the right seat and hopefully stay there 'til your attitude changes.
Take that from someone who has a few 1000 hours training people ( left and right seat ) to fly 3 different types of jets.
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If you cannot present a well reasoned argument, posses (sic) no written logic skills, cannot construct a sentence, cannot spell or punctuate,
Ah, thank you Q! I think two of the most important skills for command are knowing when to say "no" and being able to admit when you made a mistake!
I made a mistake!
"possess" should be the correct spelling...
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I guess if I paint a big target on my chest I should expect people to shoot at me!
Cheers
I made a mistake!
"possess" should be the correct spelling...
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I guess if I paint a big target on my chest I should expect people to shoot at me!
Cheers
AA,
That makes sense.
Nice of you to reveal that half way through the thread. So you're not "just a Cessna cattlemuster" after all...
"Aviation is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect."
the subsequent line training was cut shorter thanks to my inability to adapt
In AUS I completed a CPL mith a MECIR,
"Aviation is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect."
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Meanwhile, backto the topic at hand...
I have heard only good reports from FOs who did their 737 with Qantas and now fly for VB.
By the time you get through the recruitment prosess (1 July or thereafter) it will be a moot point, as candidates will be trained at the company's expense and bonded A$30,000 for Boeing or Embraer. I do not have the foggiest clue how they propose to train the large number of new pilots.
Addendum: the fail rate for the last two command courses was 35%. Seven out of twenty.
I have heard only good reports from FOs who did their 737 with Qantas and now fly for VB.
By the time you get through the recruitment prosess (1 July or thereafter) it will be a moot point, as candidates will be trained at the company's expense and bonded A$30,000 for Boeing or Embraer. I do not have the foggiest clue how they propose to train the large number of new pilots.
Addendum: the fail rate for the last two command courses was 35%. Seven out of twenty.
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If you need to buy an endorsement just do the cheapest possible, but I would think any people in GA at the moment are in the box seat! So many jobs coming so few applicants! Just sit tight! Once upon a time you needed to be in GA almost 10 years to score a turboprop job! Hang in there guys/girls! I cant see anyone in GA now not scoring a good job in the near future apart from the minority of imbeciles which every community has!