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Old 1st Sep 2006, 16:59
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Originally Posted by The Messiah
Never seen or heard of a Captain under training flying with an F/O. Any Captain under training would fly with a training Captain admitedly he would be in the right hand seat and would be the PIC
I think that is why swh talked about a 'trainee Captain' undergoing their check rather than normal line training. I've done a couple of 'final command checks' as the F/O. The C&T skipper was in the RHS for the first couple of sectors and then it was me in the RHS with the bloke under check in the left with the C&T bloke in the back seat. S/O took the other observers seat.

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...but a C&T in the jumpseat checking a Captain would never be the PIC which is was what I was getting at.
I'm pretty sure our flight plan listed the C&T in the back seat as the PIC but admittedly he was checking the trainee Captain rather tan 'checking a Captain'.

Strewth this one can get confusing quickly!
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Old 9th Sep 2006, 12:42
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have friend with PPL will give you a go of plane

your friends friend is likely to have been pinged for letting an unlicened pilot fly since he has a ppl (no instructor rating)

as for RHS flying with out training or practice it can be tears I remember doing a lap in the RHS by myself for fun when I had about 150hrs and s#it my self on landing because I wasnt used to the aim point.

I didnt realise the problems with parallex error (aiming point drama), muscle memory (still trying to reach for the power with the right hand) This and others issues with out proper traning and practice can lead to an incident or accident

Also some aircraft dont have brakes on the RHS evan though they have
rudder peddles. ( one to watch for)
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Old 10th Sep 2006, 10:43
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I think this topic has been done before with no real answers.
I have flown from both sides, no problems. Parralex errors etc, what bull. Just fly the machine!

someone was talking about being in command, A quick side question if I may, during a IFR renewal, who is in command?

If the pilot being tested has to have a command rating why then do some ATO's consider themselves being in command?
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Old 12th Sep 2006, 10:40
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how hard it must be to be so great

TurboOtta

This may be hard to belive for such a talented pilot like your self, but some people do have dificulty initally adjusting to the RHS.

If you've ever trained an instructor or observed some one do cts in the RHS for the first time you know this.



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Old 12th Sep 2006, 13:31
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I'm not talented, **** I can't even spell.
I'm just an aveator that loves to fly and can't understand why people make it harder than it really is.

You should learn to fly in Africa, they call it the housempole. you pull back on da stick, house get'em smaller, push forward den house get'em bigger.

Life was meant to be easy, why complicate it
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Old 13th Sep 2006, 10:11
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Turbootter,

You sound reasonable... Time to up the medication mate!. When they were handing out brains, you were the first in the queue, and held the door open for the rest of us.

Here in Australia we take flying very seriously and we are not prepared to compromise on safety. Stick with flying in Africa mate, you and your attitude is never welcome here.
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Old 15th Sep 2006, 23:02
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