Angel Flight needs you...
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Angel Flight needs you...
Came across this today, something to do aviation related, but firmly on the ground.
Mission Co-ordinator needed www.seek.com.au Search for Angel Flight
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Mission Co-ordinator needed www.seek.com.au Search for Angel Flight
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I had some problems with the link, here is the ad
Mission Co-ordinator
Stimulating Work Environment
Small Vibrant Team
Central Location
Angel Flight Australia is a charity that co-ordinates non emergency flights for financially and medically needy people. All flights are free and may involve patients or compassionate carers travelling to or from medical facilities anywhere in Australia.
This rare and exciting opportunity is available for a person who thrives in a multi-task work environment and who will derive great satisfaction managing logistics with referral agencies, pilot volunteers, ground volunteers, service providers, government agencies and of course the people we help.
You will have
Demonstrated experience in a similar role
Excellent organisation, verbal and written communication skills
An acute appreciation of the human condition
Demonstrated the ability to treat people with respect; keep commitments; and inspire the trust of others
In return for your skills, we offer an excellent salary package of $59,000 per annum.
To obtain further details about Angel Flight visit our web site www.angelflight.org.au.
Applications must be made on-line to the attention of Peter Riachi, General Manager.
Applications close: 6 pm Monday, 14 August 2006.
Mission Co-ordinator
Stimulating Work Environment
Small Vibrant Team
Central Location
Angel Flight Australia is a charity that co-ordinates non emergency flights for financially and medically needy people. All flights are free and may involve patients or compassionate carers travelling to or from medical facilities anywhere in Australia.
This rare and exciting opportunity is available for a person who thrives in a multi-task work environment and who will derive great satisfaction managing logistics with referral agencies, pilot volunteers, ground volunteers, service providers, government agencies and of course the people we help.
You will have
Demonstrated experience in a similar role
Excellent organisation, verbal and written communication skills
An acute appreciation of the human condition
Demonstrated the ability to treat people with respect; keep commitments; and inspire the trust of others
In return for your skills, we offer an excellent salary package of $59,000 per annum.
To obtain further details about Angel Flight visit our web site www.angelflight.org.au.
Applications must be made on-line to the attention of Peter Riachi, General Manager.
Applications close: 6 pm Monday, 14 August 2006.
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Love it!
Administration gets paid 59k, yet, once again, pilots get paid NOTHING... and have to donate the aircraft!!!!
Don't care if it IS a charity, and DOES do a lot of good work. So does the RFDS!
Administration gets paid 59k, yet, once again, pilots get paid NOTHING... and have to donate the aircraft!!!!
Don't care if it IS a charity, and DOES do a lot of good work. So does the RFDS!
When you live....
Originally Posted by chief wiggum
Love it!
Administration gets paid 59k, yet, once again, pilots get paid NOTHING... and have to donate the aircraft!!!!
Don't care if it IS a charity, and DOES do a lot of good work. So does the RFDS!
Administration gets paid 59k, yet, once again, pilots get paid NOTHING... and have to donate the aircraft!!!!
Don't care if it IS a charity, and DOES do a lot of good work. So does the RFDS!
Yes, the pilots provide the plane but it's a cheap flight - no airspace/terminal/landing fees (usually) and a fuel credit for the value of the fuel used. Win - win for everyone if you ask me (the pilots tend to be PPL who would otherwise pay for everything on a far less rewarding trip).
Show me any charity that doesn't have paid staff somewhere?
UTR.
It seems like a great idea and appears to work well, however my concern would be that you'd mostly need a CIR and a suitable aircraft to use it. I couldn't live with myself if little Johnny missed his Chemo therapy because I had bad weather or trouble starting my engine! I note that many of the profiles of the pilots show pretty good aircraft such as twins and Cirrus, etc which would be of benefit for these types of operations, particularly that they are often organised weeks in advance.
The irony here is that even if you did pay the pilots and they were full time they'd be getting ALOT less than $59 000!! You never realise how badly pilots are paid until you start working in companies that employ non flying people!!
When you live....
Neville,
Understand your point but a lot of the Angel flight pilots are PPLs and don't earn their wages flying anyway. Those who are working as CPLs give up their time (and duty hours) freely so raising the money issue is irrelevant. A lot of commercial operations would have secretarys who earn more than the pilots - these are the ones you should be upset with, not Angelflight.
Squawk,
In my experience if the weather looks particularly dodgy in advance then missions have been cancelled either early in the morning or the night before and either a commercial flight booked or in some cases the pilot has driven the patients themself. Also, the hospital knows that the patient is coming via Angelflight and so is able to rearrange things if there are holdups enroute.
Understand your point but a lot of the Angel flight pilots are PPLs and don't earn their wages flying anyway. Those who are working as CPLs give up their time (and duty hours) freely so raising the money issue is irrelevant. A lot of commercial operations would have secretarys who earn more than the pilots - these are the ones you should be upset with, not Angelflight.
Squawk,
In my experience if the weather looks particularly dodgy in advance then missions have been cancelled either early in the morning or the night before and either a commercial flight booked or in some cases the pilot has driven the patients themself. Also, the hospital knows that the patient is coming via Angelflight and so is able to rearrange things if there are holdups enroute.
Good pay but.
Its not because they are expanding.
Rather the result of an unhappy office envirourment.
Admin staff have left with more going.
Maybe its time for Bill B to step in and show some leadership again.
Its not because they are expanding.
Rather the result of an unhappy office envirourment.
Admin staff have left with more going.
Maybe its time for Bill B to step in and show some leadership again.
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Angel Flight certainly can organise help to some folk who will have an XX hour drive. Sometimes it seems there's a cast of thousands to be transported (well, 2 adults and two children with a baby carrier and luggage) beyond the capacity of most available lighties.
However, unlike a monetary donation to charities such as Red Cross, etc, donation of aircraft time (and thus the hourly costs with or without fuel) is not allowed as a tax deduction. These costs are not inconsiderable, even for aircraft owners (e.g.. c. $600 for 2 hr each way in a light piston single) who don't have to pay rental costs as some Angel Flight pilots do. This is quite anomalous in my view and virtually halves the amount of donation that could otherwise be made by the generous pilot or pilot-owner.
Angle Flight also often ask for flights between airfields that have RPT connections (or from locations that are short drives away), and although occasionally the RPT operator may donate seats, surely a better way to help in these cases would be to donate money to Angel Flight to buy some tickets - at least there'd be a deduction and the pax would get RPT levels of service. Or maybe its a service that should be provided through the health service anyway.....
Just a few thoughts from someone who's Angel Flight'ed - and no criticism of Angel Flight as a concept or service is intended by this post.
However, unlike a monetary donation to charities such as Red Cross, etc, donation of aircraft time (and thus the hourly costs with or without fuel) is not allowed as a tax deduction. These costs are not inconsiderable, even for aircraft owners (e.g.. c. $600 for 2 hr each way in a light piston single) who don't have to pay rental costs as some Angel Flight pilots do. This is quite anomalous in my view and virtually halves the amount of donation that could otherwise be made by the generous pilot or pilot-owner.
Angle Flight also often ask for flights between airfields that have RPT connections (or from locations that are short drives away), and although occasionally the RPT operator may donate seats, surely a better way to help in these cases would be to donate money to Angel Flight to buy some tickets - at least there'd be a deduction and the pax would get RPT levels of service. Or maybe its a service that should be provided through the health service anyway.....
Just a few thoughts from someone who's Angel Flight'ed - and no criticism of Angel Flight as a concept or service is intended by this post.
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Anyone know specifically the location of the job? I note that Angel Flight seems to be based in QLD. I'm in NSW, Bankstown to be precise, so I'd put in an app but it'd need to be based out of Sydney (BK or KS).
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The job is in the BNE CBD area ... the staff are friendly and efficient.
It isn't about paying pilots for their services, it is about transporting sick kids by another quicker means and returning them home again after treatment from some remote place, because they don't qualify for Aeromed and RFDS services.
I've got the shirt .. have you?
It isn't about paying pilots for their services, it is about transporting sick kids by another quicker means and returning them home again after treatment from some remote place, because they don't qualify for Aeromed and RFDS services.
I've got the shirt .. have you?
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Hi Skysis
Yup!
It's a shame that in 12 months the unanimous support shown towards Angel Flight on a previous thread has done a 180 turn with nothing but criticism and bitching.
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It's a shame that in 12 months the unanimous support shown towards Angel Flight on a previous thread has done a 180 turn with nothing but criticism and bitching.
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IJ, yes .. I remember those threads very well, and it is soooo bloody disappointing when such stuff is posted above, consequently my outburst! Not everything in aviation revolves around the bloody pilot!
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I'd be surprised and dissapointed if most pilots would not want to donate freely of their own time as pilot for such a worthy cause, as I also have done.
What is surprising, and the point of my post, is the government's refusal to allow donation of aircraft time as a tax deduction, as that will effectively increase the amount of aircraft time that an individual or organisation can afford to donate. Money can be donated to AF and is gratefully accepted - and is tax deductible to the donor, unlike aircraft time. Fuel costs are subsidised via Mobil, en-route charges and some landing fees are also able to be susidised, but as we know these are only a small part of the costs involved.
This is a problem that is well known to AF and they have been lobbying the govt about it to little avail. Compared with other charities which mainly receive monetary donations, AF is at a disadvantage, which is unfortunate and should be redressed.
BTW : Angel Flights are not just organised for sick children. Not all are from/between remote locations without RPT availability (e.g. YSWG-Syd, YBNA/YLIS-Sydney). If the pax condition is suitable and there is no-one going on a GA jolly between such locations, then the safest (for the pax) and most economically effective way (for the pilot/donor) to donate is through donating money for AF to purchase RPT tickets for said pax.
I'd be surprised and dissapointed if most pilots would not want to donate freely of their own time as pilot for such a worthy cause, as I also have done.
What is surprising, and the point of my post, is the government's refusal to allow donation of aircraft time as a tax deduction, as that will effectively increase the amount of aircraft time that an individual or organisation can afford to donate. Money can be donated to AF and is gratefully accepted - and is tax deductible to the donor, unlike aircraft time. Fuel costs are subsidised via Mobil, en-route charges and some landing fees are also able to be susidised, but as we know these are only a small part of the costs involved.
This is a problem that is well known to AF and they have been lobbying the govt about it to little avail. Compared with other charities which mainly receive monetary donations, AF is at a disadvantage, which is unfortunate and should be redressed.
BTW : Angel Flights are not just organised for sick children. Not all are from/between remote locations without RPT availability (e.g. YSWG-Syd, YBNA/YLIS-Sydney). If the pax condition is suitable and there is no-one going on a GA jolly between such locations, then the safest (for the pax) and most economically effective way (for the pilot/donor) to donate is through donating money for AF to purchase RPT tickets for said pax.
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G'day NotimTams,
WRT your last paragraph; I agree it may seem preferable that from point A to point B where there is an established RPT service in place that Angel Flight pax be directed via that means with the cost being dontated by Angel Flight benefactors.
However lets look at cold hard reality for a moment;
Pilot (PPL, CPL, ATPL or whatever) has x amount of dollars available to spend on either donating to a charity that may or may not direct the funds directly to a cause of his/her choosing, ie paying for a bum on RPT seat to major centre.
Other option is;
Same pilot decides to dedicate that time and aircraft hours (cost) to answering a request from Angel Flight and at the same time achieving the opportunity to fly VFR, IFR or whatever to contribute to a worthy cause. Not to forget the fact that our unwell pax don't have to undergo the security bullsh1t occuring at terminals these days .
My situation: Good job, expendible income, CPL, MECIR, hours hangin out my butt, blah blah friggin blah. Guess which one is gonna come up trumps every time. Why not use if for a good cause?
If Angel Flight when conceived intended for people to donate enough to pay for RPT seats for sick and needy people, they targeted the wrong audience.
The fact that they have advertised to pay office staff to run the ops and admin is a totally different kettle of fish. I think that anyone who purports to support this orgnization and questions the difference is very misguided.
BTW, I also know that Angel Flight is not just for sick kids, my pax was a gentleman in his 60s who it gave me just as much pleasure to help out.
WRT your last paragraph; I agree it may seem preferable that from point A to point B where there is an established RPT service in place that Angel Flight pax be directed via that means with the cost being dontated by Angel Flight benefactors.
However lets look at cold hard reality for a moment;
Pilot (PPL, CPL, ATPL or whatever) has x amount of dollars available to spend on either donating to a charity that may or may not direct the funds directly to a cause of his/her choosing, ie paying for a bum on RPT seat to major centre.
Other option is;
Same pilot decides to dedicate that time and aircraft hours (cost) to answering a request from Angel Flight and at the same time achieving the opportunity to fly VFR, IFR or whatever to contribute to a worthy cause. Not to forget the fact that our unwell pax don't have to undergo the security bullsh1t occuring at terminals these days .
My situation: Good job, expendible income, CPL, MECIR, hours hangin out my butt, blah blah friggin blah. Guess which one is gonna come up trumps every time. Why not use if for a good cause?
If Angel Flight when conceived intended for people to donate enough to pay for RPT seats for sick and needy people, they targeted the wrong audience.
The fact that they have advertised to pay office staff to run the ops and admin is a totally different kettle of fish. I think that anyone who purports to support this orgnization and questions the difference is very misguided.
BTW, I also know that Angel Flight is not just for sick kids, my pax was a gentleman in his 60s who it gave me just as much pleasure to help out.
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....and if the aircraft time was a tax deductible donation, as are monetary donations to other charities you and I and others could donate even more. That's the point - more bangs for buck for the pax needs (which should come first - whether via GA or RPT)....and also the pilot. 
I absolutely agree with you re: paid staff position. Meals on Wheels, Red Cross etc. has paid coordinators, why not AF? No probs there, never was, in my view.
That's the point - more bangs for buck for the pax needs (which should come first - whether via GA or RPT)....and also the pilot. I absolutely agree with you re: paid staff position. Meals on Wheels, Red Cross etc. has paid coordinators, why not AF? No probs there, never was, in my view.
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Notimtams, what a classic username!! I laughed for a while.
But anyway, can you be a member of anelflight and not own your own aircraft? Do you fly other`s A/C??
But anyway, can you be a member of anelflight and not own your own aircraft? Do you fly other`s A/C??
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I am registered as a pilot , but have no aircraft. I have been trying to find out if there are other members with aircraft in my area (ADEL) . But due to privacy laws etc , angel flight cannot disclose this. I am also registered as an earth angel.
If there are pilots out there that want another pair of hands or pilot to fill in on certain missions please PM me.
To answer your question balls , yes. As an earth angel you can help out with ground transport etc and a host of other things.
If there are pilots out there that want another pair of hands or pilot to fill in on certain missions please PM me.
To answer your question balls , yes. As an earth angel you can help out with ground transport etc and a host of other things.
