Such is my life
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Such is my life
Because of my Air Force career I joined the airlines a little older than my compatriots.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Mate, you know what the logical response to your comment will be, don't you?
If you're fishing for bites, you'll probably get some.
If not, then give DPO a quick ring, and if you were any good, you might as well head on back for an extension to that Air Force career!
If you're fishing for bites, you'll probably get some.
If not, then give DPO a quick ring, and if you were any good, you might as well head on back for an extension to that Air Force career!
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Now, before you all offer words of sympathy and advice to Rodney - as I'm sure you will - please make sure those words don't upset the Woomera tribe! 
And Rodney, the same rules apply to you also!
Just getting in first........
And Rodney, the same rules apply to you also!
Just getting in first........
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Problems
Yes, Rodney, we all have problems and gripes mate, and that one is yours.
I see what you're saying, but do I come to you with all my personal problems? Be they aviation related or not?
There is no such thing as old. Just older.
520.
I see what you're saying, but do I come to you with all my personal problems? Be they aviation related or not?
There is no such thing as old. Just older.
520.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
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Isn't it interesting how we can see different things in the same words.
I don't see rodney's post as a whinge or lament, rather an illustration of the juxtaposition of a pilots life.
4 statements of fact leading in one direction, followed by a reflection that takes the reader through a split-arse turn.
Why presume he's looking for sympathy at all?
I don't see rodney's post as a whinge or lament, rather an illustration of the juxtaposition of a pilots life.
4 statements of fact leading in one direction, followed by a reflection that takes the reader through a split-arse turn.
Why presume he's looking for sympathy at all?
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Originally Posted by rodney rude
Because of my Air Force career I joined the airlines a little older than my compatriots.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Work hard and the rewards should pay off!
Poor pilot: CMN
Sounds to me like he Doesn't like what he does, Doesn't want to be there, Doesn't have much respect for his "Compatriates", and Dosen't mind telling the world about it!!
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Because of my Air Force career I joined the airlines a little older than my compatriots.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
How about..because of my airforce career, my egos' writing cheques my body can't cash
I'm with the Capt Claret on this one...is it an observation?
"There were drawbacks in coming into the airlines from the forces, but now I don't regret them at all" is how I would read it.
"There were drawbacks in coming into the airlines from the forces, but now I don't regret them at all" is how I would read it.
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Geez, don't some of you look on the bright side of life! 
Dunno. Without confirmation from rodney, I'd go for an observation, as mentioned by the erudite Stallie Esq. Perhaps even a thought provoking observation, designed to generate an exchange of ideas and opinions.
Continental-520 So what's the objective of the post, then?
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I also agree with Capt Claret.
I did like the Topgun quote though
"The plaque for the altenates is in the ladies room"
I'm sure a lot of people would have liked an airforce career also - you're lucky you've had both military and civilian careers
Capt Carro
I did like the Topgun quote though
"The plaque for the altenates is in the ladies room"I'm sure a lot of people would have liked an airforce career also - you're lucky you've had both military and civilian careers
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From another perspective, I see it a wistful recollection of how Rodney came to arrive at where he is today, and thankful of the journey he took to get there ...
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Because of my Air Force career I joined the airlines a little older than my compatriots.
Thankfully because I have a life and friends outside of a small cockpit
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Yes and now I can watch someone else cop the crap and deal with all the problems
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
But soon i will have my life time pension that will make me just as well off as my compatriots
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Which is good because the whipper snappers are still out chasing tail while I am enjoying a nice red
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Too Right
Thankfully because I have a life and friends outside of a small cockpit
Because of my Air Force career I am still an F/O.
Yes and now I can watch someone else cop the crap and deal with all the problems
Because of my Air Force career I am a little bit less well off financially than my compatriots..
But soon i will have my life time pension that will make me just as well off as my compatriots
Because of my Air Force career I am very often the oldest on the crew.
Which is good because the whipper snappers are still out chasing tail while I am enjoying a nice red
Every day I fly airliners I thank God more and more for my Air Force career.
Too Right
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Rodney
Back last century the BBC Horizon program made a program called 'The Wrong Stuff'. I am sure you can guess where the title comes from.
It pointed out that ex-military pilots were often not the right people to have in either the left or the right hand seat in a civilian environment.
They investigated a number of incidents and accidents where the 'military training' and 'attitude' contributed to the wrong decisions being made where there was mix on the flight deck.
When an ex-Mirage RAAF pilot complained in the local (Canberra) media that he had been trained to risk his life at a cost to the Australian taxpayer of some $millions and he had been rejected by Qantas, I pointed out in the letter-to-the-editor column that Qantas was not interested in employing pilots that daily wanted to risk there lives, but rather more solid, staid and conservative pilots who kept all the passengers safe and looked after the assets.
Well - you should have seen the hate mail I got from the 'trained killers'.
Surely it is as one would say 'horses for courses.' And you possibly have a military pension on top of that as well. BTW I have a couple of ex-RAAF friends who flew fast jets and they are still FOs on B747s.
Back last century the BBC Horizon program made a program called 'The Wrong Stuff'. I am sure you can guess where the title comes from.
It pointed out that ex-military pilots were often not the right people to have in either the left or the right hand seat in a civilian environment.
They investigated a number of incidents and accidents where the 'military training' and 'attitude' contributed to the wrong decisions being made where there was mix on the flight deck.
When an ex-Mirage RAAF pilot complained in the local (Canberra) media that he had been trained to risk his life at a cost to the Australian taxpayer of some $millions and he had been rejected by Qantas, I pointed out in the letter-to-the-editor column that Qantas was not interested in employing pilots that daily wanted to risk there lives, but rather more solid, staid and conservative pilots who kept all the passengers safe and looked after the assets.
Well - you should have seen the hate mail I got from the 'trained killers'.
Surely it is as one would say 'horses for courses.' And you possibly have a military pension on top of that as well. BTW I have a couple of ex-RAAF friends who flew fast jets and they are still FOs on B747s.
Barkly.
I saw that program too. It was rubbish, of course. It might well have said that former GA pilots flying airliners are the worst types to have on airline flight decks because they have been "trained" to accept aircraft that are unairworthy, clapped, inoperative radar and the same pilots are "trained" to cut corners, do run ups on the run, and are easily conned into flying poorly maintained aircraft because their employers will sack them if they don't.
I mean are these types the Right Stuff or the Wrong Stuff you want in charge of a QANTAS big Boeing?
And of course that's all rubbish too, but see how easy it is to type cast someone because of his previous background? Once in a proper airline, any attitude problems are usually sorted out during the simulator phase and apart from the odd strange individual that slips through the system and becomes a real bastard once he gains the LH seat, the system usually weeds the crook guys out.
It pointed out that ex-military pilots were often not the right people to have in either the left or the right hand seat in a civilian environment.
They investigated a number of incidents and accidents where the 'military training' and 'attitude' contributed to the wrong decisions being made where there was mix on the flight deck
They investigated a number of incidents and accidents where the 'military training' and 'attitude' contributed to the wrong decisions being made where there was mix on the flight deck
I mean are these types the Right Stuff or the Wrong Stuff you want in charge of a QANTAS big Boeing?
And of course that's all rubbish too, but see how easy it is to type cast someone because of his previous background? Once in a proper airline, any attitude problems are usually sorted out during the simulator phase and apart from the odd strange individual that slips through the system and becomes a real bastard once he gains the LH seat, the system usually weeds the crook guys out.
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Or the other side of the coin.
I'm a captain and must take all the backlash
I fly civilian aircraft and would love to have a go at a fast jet or a C130
I don't receive any benifits from the armed forces
(or for that matter any bloody where)
I do love what I do
I am content
(and if I wasn't I damn well better change jobs before I turn bitter and twisted)
I'm a captain and must take all the backlash
I fly civilian aircraft and would love to have a go at a fast jet or a C130
I don't receive any benifits from the armed forces
(or for that matter any bloody where)
I do love what I do
I am content
(and if I wasn't I damn well better change jobs before I turn bitter and twisted)