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Emailed CASA re: Status Report on my Application. Received reply stating that QANTAS was processing and "they" will contact me.
Called CASA today and the CLARC receptionist could not answer my obvious question...."What does 'they [QANTAS] will contact me' mean and how this contact will occur when QANTAS is not the agency I agreed to do business with regarding my personal information.
A CASA representative called me two hours later and told me that QANTAS has been sub-contracted to deliver the ASIC to pilots and it was up to them [QANTAS] as to how it was done. It was suggested that QANTAS, for security reasons, required pilots to pick up their respective ASIC from QANTAS Corporate Centre at Mascot. When I asked for contact numbers and how would delivery/collection be achieved when the respective pilot is nowhere near Sydney.
Reply was: "Call QANTAS yourself and arrange something with them". This representative could not even give a direct line number let alone there administration services number. I had to look that up in the telephone book.
User pays for the buck pass and, as a subcontractor, QANTAS is not bound by any promise of service efficiency CASA makes let alone protection of private information.
In addition, can anyone confirm the rumour that you only need an ASIC if you want to access the zone within the bounds of the "blue line" ie: where the RPT ramp is located at applicable airports.
If this is true then the piloting fraternity has been "duped" into giving up not only $200 but access to private information to a plethora of Government Departments.
Another Bureaucratic
up!!!!! or a clever clever way to obtain and maintain a "file" on every pilot to which CASA is the portal to the pilots training progression, professional enhancement in qualifications and medical status.
1984 gentlemen!!!
Called CASA today and the CLARC receptionist could not answer my obvious question...."What does 'they [QANTAS] will contact me' mean and how this contact will occur when QANTAS is not the agency I agreed to do business with regarding my personal information.
A CASA representative called me two hours later and told me that QANTAS has been sub-contracted to deliver the ASIC to pilots and it was up to them [QANTAS] as to how it was done. It was suggested that QANTAS, for security reasons, required pilots to pick up their respective ASIC from QANTAS Corporate Centre at Mascot. When I asked for contact numbers and how would delivery/collection be achieved when the respective pilot is nowhere near Sydney.
Reply was: "Call QANTAS yourself and arrange something with them". This representative could not even give a direct line number let alone there administration services number. I had to look that up in the telephone book.
User pays for the buck pass and, as a subcontractor, QANTAS is not bound by any promise of service efficiency CASA makes let alone protection of private information.
In addition, can anyone confirm the rumour that you only need an ASIC if you want to access the zone within the bounds of the "blue line" ie: where the RPT ramp is located at applicable airports.
If this is true then the piloting fraternity has been "duped" into giving up not only $200 but access to private information to a plethora of Government Departments.
Another Bureaucratic
up!!!!! or a clever clever way to obtain and maintain a "file" on every pilot to which CASA is the portal to the pilots training progression, professional enhancement in qualifications and medical status.1984 gentlemen!!!
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Some good points FO - seems that if they have shared any of our personal info with their subcontractor, they may may well have breached privacy legislation.
(So what when you are above the law anyway!)
Bet you're right about the blue line too.
(So what when you are above the law anyway!)
Bet you're right about the blue line too.
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One crowd that issues these things (not CASA) commits an offence on their application form. This is verified by the Privacy Commission.
When the dust settles it will be interesting to see if they are taken to task.
When the dust settles it will be interesting to see if they are taken to task.
I don't recall any tender process.....??
Why Qantas?
Time is running out, tick tock tick tock....16 days to go....
Why Qantas?
Time is running out, tick tock tick tock....16 days to go....
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They (CASA) told me on 23rd February that my ASIC was at Qantas for printing, but so far ......no ASIC.
I'm guessing that the "Qantas for printing" line is a fob off to stop people for enquiring about the progress of the card. I say this because some friends who have had a Qantas location specific ASIC have had it converted to a full ASIC and printed in a week
They (CASA) told me on 23rd February that my ASIC was at Qantas for printing, but so far ......no ASIC.
I'm guessing that the "Qantas for printing" line is a fob off to stop people for enquiring about the progress of the card. I say this because some friends who have had a Qantas location specific ASIC have had it converted to a full ASIC and printed in a week
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Agree - response from email site was "your application has been sent to Qantas on 24th Feb". Still waiting - no contact - how do QF know how to contact me anyway??? Was in Sydney last week - could have picked up the card at the jetbase, if that's where they're being issued. Now back on the other side of the earth, so who knows????? Waiting, waiting, waiting - well I do live in WA so what did I expect?! (Wait Awhile)
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I received an email from CLARC on the 3rd of March saying that my ASIC was at Qantas for printing. I applied in December.
On Monday I phoned Qantas and was told that my ASIC was part of a bunch that were sent with the wrong photos and that there was a mix up
On Tuesday I called again and was told that my card was now printed and that I would receive a letter in a couple of days with instructions on where and when to pick it up (I'm in Adelaide).
Today, still no letter.
I can just imagine getting my card with the wrong bloody photo
On Monday I phoned Qantas and was told that my ASIC was part of a bunch that were sent with the wrong photos and that there was a mix up
On Tuesday I called again and was told that my card was now printed and that I would receive a letter in a couple of days with instructions on where and when to pick it up (I'm in Adelaide).
Today, still no letter.
I can just imagine getting my card with the wrong bloody photo
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I emailed qantas to ask how my ASIC was getting on, received a promp reply saying that they had the card ready to go, just waiting for a final clearance from DoTARS before they can mail it to me. Does anybody know what this means... Will I ever get my card???
scripted American Daytime soapie.... 6 months later the story line is still the same.
What I love as well is that they charged my credit card for said card probably a month ago and i'm yet to recieve it. As far as i'm concerned they should only charge for it after it's sent. Also these cards apparently are valid for 2 years, whats the bet they will be dated JAN 06 so that by the time we get them they will be infact only valid for a year and a half.
When you live....
Hmmmm - anyone not got a reply from CASA?
Just tried again after no response three weeks ago and notice that their acknowlegement no longer promises to get back to you after a couple of days but just offers that your info is on it's way to the ASIC team.
Bit poor seeing has how they took money from my credit card last October!
UTR.
Just tried again after no response three weeks ago and notice that their acknowlegement no longer promises to get back to you after a couple of days but just offers that your info is on it's way to the ASIC team.
Bit poor seeing has how they took money from my credit card last October!
UTR.
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OK!! Sticks neck out again.
Here is the latest goss, which with any luck will be confirmed directly before too long.
Yes CASA have contracted QF to do their ASIC printing and Plan A is/was that QF would do the distribution through their offices/airports etc.
There are some difficulties with this in location and accesibility.
Plan B, to be confirmed, is that a secure form of registered good ol Australia Post will be used in lieu for delivery.
The ASICs for those who applied before the 31/12/2006 WILL recieve them in time and they are making a determined effort to meet the same deadline on those lodged after. If not they will not be far away and will issue ion the normal course of events.
Remember there is a new section that will be handling the security issues which will kick in when they have the backlog cleared and can resume normal transmission.
There will be some who have "failed" the first pass and further info or time will be needed.
The actual numbers that CASA received were nothing like the 30,000 being bandied about by a certain organisation it was more like something over 7,000recieved by the deadline with a final total over 12,000.
The balance of the alleged 30,000 were almost certainly those who were already issued by or through their employers and those who do not need nor wish to have one.
By hook or by crook the task will be completed.
Remember what I said earlier, it is their problem and if you have done the right thing it will remain so and you will get your ASIC on time.
Please be patient and let them finish the task, they too have pride in their work and they are working hard.
Here is the latest goss, which with any luck will be confirmed directly before too long.
Yes CASA have contracted QF to do their ASIC printing and Plan A is/was that QF would do the distribution through their offices/airports etc.
There are some difficulties with this in location and accesibility.
Plan B, to be confirmed, is that a secure form of registered good ol Australia Post will be used in lieu for delivery.
The ASICs for those who applied before the 31/12/2006 WILL recieve them in time and they are making a determined effort to meet the same deadline on those lodged after. If not they will not be far away and will issue ion the normal course of events.
Remember there is a new section that will be handling the security issues which will kick in when they have the backlog cleared and can resume normal transmission.
There will be some who have "failed" the first pass and further info or time will be needed.
The actual numbers that CASA received were nothing like the 30,000 being bandied about by a certain organisation it was more like something over 7,000recieved by the deadline with a final total over 12,000.
The balance of the alleged 30,000 were almost certainly those who were already issued by or through their employers and those who do not need nor wish to have one.
By hook or by crook the task will be completed.
Remember what I said earlier, it is their problem and if you have done the right thing it will remain so and you will get your ASIC on time.
Please be patient and let them finish the task, they too have pride in their work and they are working hard.
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Originally Posted by UnderneathTheRadar
Hmmmm - anyone not got a reply from CASA?
Just tried again after no response three weeks ago and notice that their acknowlegement no longer promises to get back to you after a couple of days but just offers that your info is on it's way to the ASIC team.
Bit poor seeing has how they took money from my credit card last October!
UTR.
Just tried again after no response three weeks ago and notice that their acknowlegement no longer promises to get back to you after a couple of days but just offers that your info is on it's way to the ASIC team.
Bit poor seeing has how they took money from my credit card last October!
UTR.
Received a reply Tuesday lunchtime
Application STILL with AFP
BD