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If anyone living in YBCS is dealing with CASA for your ASIC, tell them to go 
themselves and go see the lovely ladies at the CNS Port Authority. Diane was a champ, in 20 days from initial application and security checks to having the card in my hand, is all it took for the same price. You just need someone on the field to sponser you! They are champs 
I asked CASA who I had to sleep with to speed the process up, they were not impressed. Anyway [email protected] is my latest best friend in Canberra. He sorts the clowns out with a few complaints I have made, get him on to it (unlike the abortion known as "CLARC"; he actually replies to his e-mails). I also made a suggestion to CLARC that their hold music should be the kind you hear in the circus dododododo dodo dodo do 
themselves and go see the lovely ladies at the CNS Port Authority. Diane was a champ, in 20 days from initial application and security checks to having the card in my hand, is all it took for the same price. You just need someone on the field to sponser you! They are champs I asked CASA who I had to sleep with to speed the process up, they were not impressed. Anyway [email protected] is my latest best friend in Canberra. He sorts the clowns out with a few complaints I have made, get him on to it (unlike the abortion known as "CLARC"; he actually replies to his e-mails). I also made a suggestion to CLARC that their hold music should be the kind you hear in the circus dododododo dodo dodo do
Interesting that you guys applied in December and have received your ASIC cards..........I applied in early November, but it is still in the hands of Qantas, with no ETA.
I agree that backdating the cards to the date of application is another classic CASA rip-off. Great system!
I agree that backdating the cards to the date of application is another classic CASA rip-off. Great system!
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What are you all complaining about?
Classic CASA 'service': You needed one from Jan 1st, right?
Then they changed the rule a bit so you did not need one until April - so you are no worse off now! So paying from January or when you originally applied leaves you where you were. No point in applying in November when you did not need one until January either. You see, if you had got it in November, you could have worn it, so its only fair you pay for it. The fact that you did not need it is simply because the rule changed for reasons beyond their control
Now, if they were to change the rule again so that you do not need it in April, they are still quite within their rights because you paid for it but you did not need it and if you need it, you should obvisouly pay for it.
Not got mine - I wonder if ASIO are keeping it.
Classic CASA 'service': You needed one from Jan 1st, right?
Then they changed the rule a bit so you did not need one until April - so you are no worse off now! So paying from January or when you originally applied leaves you where you were. No point in applying in November when you did not need one until January either. You see, if you had got it in November, you could have worn it, so its only fair you pay for it. The fact that you did not need it is simply because the rule changed for reasons beyond their control
Now, if they were to change the rule again so that you do not need it in April, they are still quite within their rights because you paid for it but you did not need it and if you need it, you should obvisouly pay for it.
Not got mine - I wonder if ASIO are keeping it.
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I have no idea of the reasoning behind the issue date becoming the application date.
However;
It does occur to me though, that were they wishing to set themselves up for a repeat of the recent pressurised scenario with everybody yelling at them, they would give everybody who applied before 31/12/05 the same issue date.
You could then absolutely rely on everybody, despite numerous reminders, to leave it until the last minute, then off we go around the merry go round again.
I expect that scheming to "rip you off" is the last thing on their minds right now, or ever for that matter.
However;
It does occur to me though, that were they wishing to set themselves up for a repeat of the recent pressurised scenario with everybody yelling at them, they would give everybody who applied before 31/12/05 the same issue date.
You could then absolutely rely on everybody, despite numerous reminders, to leave it until the last minute, then off we go around the merry go round again.
I expect that scheming to "rip you off" is the last thing on their minds right now, or ever for that matter.
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Gaunty,
I do agree. I dont think they are aiming to RIP me off and that it probably would be the last thing on their minds, as you say. Sometimes I just cant help but think these things however. They are certianly one of the bigger money grabbing parts of the Australian Government.
Just cant figure out why I have recieved my ASIC and was told that it would be valid for 2 years, when i open the envelope and discover that it has already lost 7 months off it
Im going to call them tomorrow so ill post again tomorrow night with my findings.
Cheers........Porter.
I do agree. I dont think they are aiming to RIP me off and that it probably would be the last thing on their minds, as you say. Sometimes I just cant help but think these things however. They are certianly one of the bigger money grabbing parts of the Australian Government.
Just cant figure out why I have recieved my ASIC and was told that it would be valid for 2 years, when i open the envelope and discover that it has already lost 7 months off it
Im going to call them tomorrow so ill post again tomorrow night with my findings.
Cheers........Porter.
Your lucky you even have yours! Second week of september the application went in..still nothing!
What is even more confusing for me is that I just recieved my CPL in the mail today (passed it on Feb 17) and its the old style licence?! No photo licence or AVID even though i had the application in for a PPL AVID from AUGUST last year.
What is even more confusing for me is that I just recieved my CPL in the mail today (passed it on Feb 17) and its the old style licence?! No photo licence or AVID even though i had the application in for a PPL AVID from AUGUST last year.
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Received my ASIC today, and as suspected in an earlier post, is backdated to Sept 05. I could accept Jan 06 since that was the original ASIC requirement date, but Sept is ridiculous.
Now the question is, when do I re-apply to renew my ASIC given it took 7 months to get this one, and not get caught up with everyone else renewing so we get the same debacle again, and not too soon that I don't get 2 year's worth.......!?
SnoopyDoopy
Now the question is, when do I re-apply to renew my ASIC given it took 7 months to get this one, and not get caught up with everyone else renewing so we get the same debacle again, and not too soon that I don't get 2 year's worth.......!?
SnoopyDoopy
Lets not let this one rest. I'm sick and tired of CASA charging like wounded bulls then not delivering on their services. At the VERY least this cards should be dated JAN08. If we get no joy out of CASA who do we contact, office of fair trading or the ombudsman? Lets find out and all act. We all lie down and take it from CASA far too often.
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Me neither
If any airport security patroller comes up to me all uniformed up in "Protective Service" clothes or whatever, and asks me where my ASIC is, I'm going to fully arc up at him/her and tell them to direct their queries to CASA.
"Exactly, Sir!! Where the hell is my ASIC? I paid for it last August, and still haven't got it!!"
Isn't this fair enough?
Same goes for the renewal. If it doesn't have March 08 on it, I guess I will be forced to reap the worth out of it that I paid for by just not renewing it till March 08, and then just telling the security officers that I've applied for the renewal, but still haven't got it... (!)
520.
"Exactly, Sir!! Where the hell is my ASIC? I paid for it last August, and still haven't got it!!"
Isn't this fair enough?
Same goes for the renewal. If it doesn't have March 08 on it, I guess I will be forced to reap the worth out of it that I paid for by just not renewing it till March 08, and then just telling the security officers that I've applied for the renewal, but still haven't got it... (!)
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We're giving CASA a hard time, but Qantas aren’t much better. My ASIC has apparently been with Qantas for printing for the last month, and when I called Qantas I was told it was at their Brisbane security office waiting to be picked up. When I called this office to double check they said it wasn't there yet and that CASA would be mailing it out.
I'm feeling a little concerned because a lot of people around me have received their ASIC, but my credit card hasn't even been charged yet despite CASA and Qantas saying each other have it. Is anyone else in a similar position?
One last thing, I passed my instructor rating in December but still have not received the official paperwork for my licence. Have things changed or do they not send these out for instructors anymore (or is it sitting in the queue)?
I'm feeling a little concerned because a lot of people around me have received their ASIC, but my credit card hasn't even been charged yet despite CASA and Qantas saying each other have it. Is anyone else in a similar position?
One last thing, I passed my instructor rating in December but still have not received the official paperwork for my licence. Have things changed or do they not send these out for instructors anymore (or is it sitting in the queue)?
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Can you believe this? One of our Captains showed me his 2, yes TWO, ASICs the other day. He'd just renewed his at QF and had been told the new one couldn't give him the necessary access to the buildings, carparks, aerobridges, GOD's office, etc, so he could keep the old one!!!
Mine was recently renewed... not for 2 years, but for 15 months. "We're staggering them", she said. "I thought you went through all that 2 years ago", I said. So the whole renewal process starts again in 12 months. Jeez. Oh, and mine DOES give me all necessary access, so go figure.
I asked her "since all this started, how many QF pilots have actually had their ASIC refused?" You can imagine the answer.
What a bureaucratic shambles.
Well, at least via the QF process we do get actually them in a timely manner, unlike you poor buggers in GA. But I guess the Canberra bureaucrats wouldn't really tolerate missing/erroneous/expired red tags around the necks of jet RPT pilots. It's good to see that the Einsteins will turn a blind eye for a while at places like Victoria River Downs, Hooker Creek, etc.... But that'd better only be for a few months - no more than that, there are real security risks out there otherwise....
Be alert but not alarmed, right?!
Mine was recently renewed... not for 2 years, but for 15 months. "We're staggering them", she said. "I thought you went through all that 2 years ago", I said. So the whole renewal process starts again in 12 months. Jeez. Oh, and mine DOES give me all necessary access, so go figure.
I asked her "since all this started, how many QF pilots have actually had their ASIC refused?" You can imagine the answer.
What a bureaucratic shambles.
Well, at least via the QF process we do get actually them in a timely manner, unlike you poor buggers in GA. But I guess the Canberra bureaucrats wouldn't really tolerate missing/erroneous/expired red tags around the necks of jet RPT pilots. It's good to see that the Einsteins will turn a blind eye for a while at places like Victoria River Downs, Hooker Creek, etc.... But that'd better only be for a few months - no more than that, there are real security risks out there otherwise....
Be alert but not alarmed, right?!
Ando, do you have a contact in Qantas to call? My email from CASA says QF will contact me, no mention of how to contact them.
QF have now had my details for over 6 weeks...............how long is it going to take?
QF have now had my details for over 6 weeks...............how long is it going to take?
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Since the Government stated that we can claim the cost of this now "unecessary" card as a tax deduction, has anyone actually received a receipt from CASA?"Unecessary".....It has been confirmed that you only need an ASIC if you want to venture into the area bounded by the "blue line" at the so called security control airports (BDV etc
). The area bounded by the blue line is referred to the RPT Ramp area at security controled airports.
Originally Posted by Chadzat
Your lucky you even have yours! Second week of september the application went in..still nothing!
What is even more confusing for me is that I just recieved my CPL in the mail today (passed it on Feb 17) and its the old style licence?! No photo licence or AVID even though i had the application in for a PPL AVID from AUGUST last year.
What is even more confusing for me is that I just recieved my CPL in the mail today (passed it on Feb 17) and its the old style licence?! No photo licence or AVID even though i had the application in for a PPL AVID from AUGUST last year.
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CASA receipt
FO Cokebottle Yes, I received a receipt from CASA last week, confirming they'd debited my credit card on 11th January. Still no ASIC, though. Think I might do as a previous poster suggested, and laminate the receipt and hang it around my neck.