Commonwealth Games - 'exclusion zone'
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Commonwealth Games - 'exclusion zone'
Just heard on ABC news that an exclusion zone of 40nm from the MCG will be in place during the Commonwealth games.
They went on to 'explain' how all of the Melbourne basin is "restricted airspace due to it's 'commerciality'" so with that level of journo comprehension, I'm not too concerned that MB/EN/PCK/TYA etc and all of the class G will be shut down but am curious to know the exact what/wheres are going to be.
Anyone know?
UTR.
They went on to 'explain' how all of the Melbourne basin is "restricted airspace due to it's 'commerciality'" so with that level of journo comprehension, I'm not too concerned that MB/EN/PCK/TYA etc and all of the class G will be shut down but am curious to know the exact what/wheres are going to be.
Anyone know?
UTR.
I think the ABC just said it was a FOUR mile exclusion zone around the MCG.
After all it's not as if it is the Olympics is it? Just a lot of LTPAC running around as Sir Humphrey would say.
After all it's not as if it is the Olympics is it? Just a lot of LTPAC running around as Sir Humphrey would say.
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IF this report is accurate then 40 miles it is. See the second last para.
How much if any, negotiation has taken place through RAPAC or with any of the operators based at the 20 or so airports/airstrips within this 40 mile radius that appear to be severely restrained by this.
More heavy handed security for own good of course.
See here at the ABC website:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1524015.htm
Last Update: Monday, December 5, 2005. 3:04pm (AEDT)
Air Force to be on patrol during Games
The Victoria Police Chief Commissioner has released more details about the security arrangements for next year's Commonwealth Games.
There are now 100 days to go before the Games start.
Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon has used the opportunity to again reassure the community the state is prepared and security measures are in place.
She says there will be a visible military presence including the use of Hornet FA18s, which will patrol during the opening and closing ceremonies.
Commissioner Nixon says the community should not be alarmed.
"I think the military people are concerned the community might get worried about that and that's why we're talking about it so they won't," she said.
There will be a restricted flight zone around Melbourne, as most of the Games activity will be staged in and around the city centre.
Commissioner Nixon says provisions are in place should a rogue plane breach the restricted zone, including the possibility of shooting the aircraft down.
Commander Brendan Bannan says the air exclusion zone will be effective for the duration of the event.
"The exclusion zone is a forty nautical mile radius from the Melbourne Cricket Ground," he said.
"The Melbourne basin of course is already a restricted area because of the commerciality of it so the policing of that restricted area will be a partnership between Victoria Police and Defence."
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How much if any, negotiation has taken place through RAPAC or with any of the operators based at the 20 or so airports/airstrips within this 40 mile radius that appear to be severely restrained by this.
More heavy handed security for own good of course.
See here at the ABC website:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1524015.htm
Last Update: Monday, December 5, 2005. 3:04pm (AEDT)
Air Force to be on patrol during Games
The Victoria Police Chief Commissioner has released more details about the security arrangements for next year's Commonwealth Games.
There are now 100 days to go before the Games start.
Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon has used the opportunity to again reassure the community the state is prepared and security measures are in place.
She says there will be a visible military presence including the use of Hornet FA18s, which will patrol during the opening and closing ceremonies.
Commissioner Nixon says the community should not be alarmed.
"I think the military people are concerned the community might get worried about that and that's why we're talking about it so they won't," she said.
There will be a restricted flight zone around Melbourne, as most of the Games activity will be staged in and around the city centre.
Commissioner Nixon says provisions are in place should a rogue plane breach the restricted zone, including the possibility of shooting the aircraft down.
Commander Brendan Bannan says the air exclusion zone will be effective for the duration of the event.
"The exclusion zone is a forty nautical mile radius from the Melbourne Cricket Ground," he said.
"The Melbourne basin of course is already a restricted area because of the commerciality of it so the policing of that restricted area will be a partnership between Victoria Police and Defence."
VT
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When do ya think these morons will realise that YMML is within the resrticted zone?
I think the only thing the community should be concerned about is the utter lack of any sign of tangable intelligence displayed by our elected officials.
Idiots
I think the only thing the community should be concerned about is the utter lack of any sign of tangable intelligence displayed by our elected officials.
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If it was anything like the Olympics, the Flight Security Zones required all aircraft to be identified (much like ADIZ I suppose) prior to entry. From memory a flight plan needed to be submitted. Local AD CCT traffic would probably be OK without ID.
This time the weaponry will be more than a couple of keystone cops with service revolvers zooming around in caravans and citations.
This time the weaponry will be more than a couple of keystone cops with service revolvers zooming around in caravans and citations.
So let me get this straight..............Even after requiring us to have locks immobilising aircraft, a photo licence, ASIO Security Check, AFP Criminal check, Immigration status check, and an ASIC, the authorities STILL think we are a risk? Either that or are all our checks merely window dressing?
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Commissioner Nixon says provisions are in place should a rogue plane breach the restricted zone, including the possibility of shooting the aircraft down.
(ignoring other issues such as errant missiles or spent bullets)
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Seems like lots of relevant bits got lost in the original media release.
Here's something I found on UseNet
AOPA has been across this all the way and regrets that the media have once
again got their facts wrong. AOPA would not accept such a situation and has
been involved in the consultative process to ensure a commonsense approach
to the Games aviation security. AOPA supports the actual commonsense
aviation security arrangements negotiated by Airservices.
The facts are: -
1. An exclusion zone will rightly exist from 1700 to 2400 EDST for the
opening and closing ceremonies ONLY.
2. The zone is 40 Nm.
3. FA/18 will be on call and armed.
4. The zone can be reactivated at short notice during the Games should an
identified threat occur and ATC will coordinate the safe extraction of GA
aircraft in such circumstances.
5. There are some TRAs during the games. These are small and only for the
duration of specific events, and will have minimal effect on GA traffic. SNP and APL will not be available for YMEN entry for the entire 12 days of the
games, effectively during daylight hours., there will be
some impediment to the West of YMMB requiring minor diversion, but this has
already been agreed by local operators through the RAPAC process.
6. The RAPAC briefings have been detailed and satisfactory both re
information and proposal.
7. There is another series of meetings to discuss the final arrangements on
13/14 Dec.
Haven't seen any confirmation or notice on Airservices website yet.
Here's something I found on UseNet
AOPA has been across this all the way and regrets that the media have once
again got their facts wrong. AOPA would not accept such a situation and has
been involved in the consultative process to ensure a commonsense approach
to the Games aviation security. AOPA supports the actual commonsense
aviation security arrangements negotiated by Airservices.
The facts are: -
1. An exclusion zone will rightly exist from 1700 to 2400 EDST for the
opening and closing ceremonies ONLY.
2. The zone is 40 Nm.
3. FA/18 will be on call and armed.
4. The zone can be reactivated at short notice during the Games should an
identified threat occur and ATC will coordinate the safe extraction of GA
aircraft in such circumstances.
5. There are some TRAs during the games. These are small and only for the
duration of specific events, and will have minimal effect on GA traffic. SNP and APL will not be available for YMEN entry for the entire 12 days of the
games, effectively during daylight hours., there will be
some impediment to the West of YMMB requiring minor diversion, but this has
already been agreed by local operators through the RAPAC process.
6. The RAPAC briefings have been detailed and satisfactory both re
information and proposal.
7. There is another series of meetings to discuss the final arrangements on
13/14 Dec.
Haven't seen any confirmation or notice on Airservices website yet.
Last edited by Biggles_in_Oz; 5th Dec 2005 at 23:51.
Grandpa Aerotart
That makes more sense.
Though on the subject of an F18 on standby and armed I hope that means orbiting overhead...if deemed appropriate at all it is the only thing that even comes close to being a viable intervention.
Though on the subject of an F18 on standby and armed I hope that means orbiting overhead...if deemed appropriate at all it is the only thing that even comes close to being a viable intervention.
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Armed with what? Can't have bullets raining on spectators, so a small mock thermonuclear guided missile device that leaves only a fine shower of ash would be ideal. I wonder if the networks have asked for a camera feed from the nose?
One stunt not recommended during the period is what has happened occasionally around Melbourne:
- penetration of CTA/CTR by unknown VFR
- ATC broadcasts on area frequency
- no radio response from aircraft, but pilot switches off transponder.
