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If you think back a few years this "charity" flew shar patrols every weekend and public holiday from the October long weekend to the Anzac long weekend in April (sometimes two aircraft a day) as well as flying hundreds of hours for the Police and other State angencies without a SAR contract and on less funding that is currently being injected to the "charity *cough pockets cough* and there was no problem or whining or long winded media bulls*^t.
How long will it be before the local media read this topic and ask the real questions rather then the blind stories of I saw a shark. When is the last time there was actual proof that the so called sharks were actually seen when they were spotted, theres never seems to be any photos or footage.
On the other hand I believe its congrats to the Chief Pilot for losing four SAR pilots last week, which makes it eight SAR pilots this year, he would go himself but nobody wants him. Surely AusSAR must counting the days till a real operator is looking after search and rescue on the east coast rather than wasting money on wannabees.
How long will it be before the local media read this topic and ask the real questions rather then the blind stories of I saw a shark. When is the last time there was actual proof that the so called sharks were actually seen when they were spotted, theres never seems to be any photos or footage.
On the other hand I believe its congrats to the Chief Pilot for losing four SAR pilots last week, which makes it eight SAR pilots this year, he would go himself but nobody wants him. Surely AusSAR must counting the days till a real operator is looking after search and rescue on the east coast rather than wasting money on wannabees.
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Congratulations!
Great to see someone finally taking a stand against some of the less-reputable operators in this industry!
Gum Boots; if your post is correct, and I have no doubt that it is, then surely it is time for CASA and AusSAR to get involved as they must be having one hell of time meeting the terms and conditions of the SAR contract and more importantly, there must now be genuine concerns for safety of operations issues?
Surely the CP can't be legally holding the fort on his own?
Gum Boots; if your post is correct, and I have no doubt that it is, then surely it is time for CASA and AusSAR to get involved as they must be having one hell of time meeting the terms and conditions of the SAR contract and more importantly, there must now be genuine concerns for safety of operations issues?
Surely the CP can't be legally holding the fort on his own?
Well done guys and girls!
I wonder if it would be worthwhile for any of the former staff to step up and offer whatever support or evidence they can?
I know a few of them and I am sure they would be VERY interested!
I wonder if it would be worthwhile for any of the former staff to step up and offer whatever support or evidence they can?
I know a few of them and I am sure they would be VERY interested!
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WOW!!!
Had a reasonably long talk with the young fella (new operations manager) who believes he has been anointed as the new GM for this mob. (Might work if he wasn’t still a wet-behind-the-ears kid!) He claimed that certain elements in the aviation community are trying to close the AAP down forever out of spite and jealousy!
Trouble with this whole concept is that this thread is all about people receiving a fair days pay for a fair days work – nothing else really! The site was commenced by one of their own seeking appropriate pay for work done and asking advice about achieving just this. From the ‘wins’ achieved by the baggage handlers so far, I’d say that ANGELSEEKER has done a damned fine job – WELL DONE! – but the work is not over yet. There are still issues about training backpay which need sorting but I believe this is due to come to a head in the next few weeks. (Next steps HAS to be to achieve fair pay and conditions for the PILOTS working in this organisation and maybe you can achieve a flow-on affect to other questionable organisations.)
Seems they have been telling QLink that there are no problems with workers pay and conditions although a little birdie tells me that QLink know everything already so I’d guess that someone’s credibility must be really shot by now! Also understand that every effort is being made to keep all the IR stuff away from the media – if that’s what it takes to make you clowns pay people fairly and correctly Mr M; THEN SO BE IT! (Consider it done!)
Had a reasonably long talk with the young fella (new operations manager) who believes he has been anointed as the new GM for this mob. (Might work if he wasn’t still a wet-behind-the-ears kid!) He claimed that certain elements in the aviation community are trying to close the AAP down forever out of spite and jealousy!
Trouble with this whole concept is that this thread is all about people receiving a fair days pay for a fair days work – nothing else really! The site was commenced by one of their own seeking appropriate pay for work done and asking advice about achieving just this. From the ‘wins’ achieved by the baggage handlers so far, I’d say that ANGELSEEKER has done a damned fine job – WELL DONE! – but the work is not over yet. There are still issues about training backpay which need sorting but I believe this is due to come to a head in the next few weeks. (Next steps HAS to be to achieve fair pay and conditions for the PILOTS working in this organisation and maybe you can achieve a flow-on affect to other questionable organisations.)
Seems they have been telling QLink that there are no problems with workers pay and conditions although a little birdie tells me that QLink know everything already so I’d guess that someone’s credibility must be really shot by now! Also understand that every effort is being made to keep all the IR stuff away from the media – if that’s what it takes to make you clowns pay people fairly and correctly Mr M; THEN SO BE IT! (Consider it done!)
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Apparently the CP is the SAR pilot 24/7 as well as flying instructor, charter pilot, ATO and fuel truck driver.
You would think as an X CASA regional officer and CP you would know your flight and duty limitations, but some people are just too good for that.
What are the old staff up to anyway. Last I heard CASA was rounding them up to ask questions???
You would think as an X CASA regional officer and CP you would know your flight and duty limitations, but some people are just too good for that.
What are the old staff up to anyway. Last I heard CASA was rounding them up to ask questions???
gum boots,
Some of the staff have found their way to QF, DJ and the Regionals. I am sure CASA would have a field day questioning them without a doubt
I know for a fact that most of them never got any Super even though it was listed on their pay slip
Authorities could really go to town with this mob
When the beers a'flowin"it's amazing what troubles pour out on the table
Some of the staff have found their way to QF, DJ and the Regionals. I am sure CASA would have a field day questioning them without a doubt
I know for a fact that most of them never got any Super even though it was listed on their pay slip
Authorities could really go to town with this mob
When the beers a'flowin"it's amazing what troubles pour out on the table
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Just had these posts brought to my attention.
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Quote: McRippy 26JUL04
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but what ever you do always, i mean always question anyone who says you can get a PPL for under $3000 or if someone tells you about a cadetship also be very warry, although many are good but dont want to get started on that subject (if you dont know what they are do a search on these forums). so many flying schools want your money and they will promise you the world.what it comes down to if you want to be a commercial pilot. you will be on **** money for many years and bad conditions but never work for free and chicks dig pilots untill they find out how poor you are,to get that airline job you need a minimum of 500 hours command and the right attitude. so you will not do your training and go into an airline like many flying schools try to make you believe.
Quote: McRippy 16JUN04
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if no one would flip burgers for less then $15 an hour (highly technical work) then why do f*%k heads fly planes for free
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Interesting point here is that McRippy just happens to be the Junior Manager of the offending organisation! Who would be better positioned to comment on ripping off staff and pilots and who speaks so highly of THEIR organisation (although behind a supposedly anonymous handle??)
Makes you wonder what makes some people tick?
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Quote: McRippy 26JUL04
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but what ever you do always, i mean always question anyone who says you can get a PPL for under $3000 or if someone tells you about a cadetship also be very warry, although many are good but dont want to get started on that subject (if you dont know what they are do a search on these forums). so many flying schools want your money and they will promise you the world.what it comes down to if you want to be a commercial pilot. you will be on **** money for many years and bad conditions but never work for free and chicks dig pilots untill they find out how poor you are,to get that airline job you need a minimum of 500 hours command and the right attitude. so you will not do your training and go into an airline like many flying schools try to make you believe.
Quote: McRippy 16JUN04
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if no one would flip burgers for less then $15 an hour (highly technical work) then why do f*%k heads fly planes for free
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Interesting point here is that McRippy just happens to be the Junior Manager of the offending organisation! Who would be better positioned to comment on ripping off staff and pilots and who speaks so highly of THEIR organisation (although behind a supposedly anonymous handle??)
Makes you wonder what makes some people tick?
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I think the email is winnet.com.au and the young person you guy's are havin a go at is not true. Maybe you should commend him for standing up and not taking ****. i wish i had the greek pride in me
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Collie, the amount was all zeros....so many in fact, it even started with Zero!
HM has been seen courting the Libs lately (called "hedging") but sources confirm they are not interested in helping out now they know the truth.
HM has been seen courting the Libs lately (called "hedging") but sources confirm they are not interested in helping out now they know the truth.
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Angelseeker, 2 questions if I may.
1. Did you eventually stay on with the Patrol?
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2. What was the eventual outcome with the Union intervention on behalf of the Baggage Handlers?
1. Did you eventually stay on with the Patrol?
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2. What was the eventual outcome with the Union intervention on behalf of the Baggage Handlers?
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P&B,
I stayed with the organisation BUT there has been many changes made and the union has sorted out all (or most) of our stuff with the baggage contract. If HM does not comply, we are all walking off the job and they will be left in even bigger trouble than they have now. As Quantas only gave the contract for 1 year, we think it is likely that the service will end mid 2006 as it is not doing as well as everyone reckons. There is still a lot of trouble with the SAR contract and also it is unlikely that we will be involved in this work very soon too as they are not happy with the way everything has been done.
Anyone who thought this place was a bad place to work should pop in now.......it is 10 times worse!
I stayed with the organisation BUT there has been many changes made and the union has sorted out all (or most) of our stuff with the baggage contract. If HM does not comply, we are all walking off the job and they will be left in even bigger trouble than they have now. As Quantas only gave the contract for 1 year, we think it is likely that the service will end mid 2006 as it is not doing as well as everyone reckons. There is still a lot of trouble with the SAR contract and also it is unlikely that we will be involved in this work very soon too as they are not happy with the way everything has been done.
Anyone who thought this place was a bad place to work should pop in now.......it is 10 times worse!
Ripped off
Without reading the entirety of this post, I am aware of this operator through an aquantance who was employed with this organisation. I can assure you that what they are doing is illegal, which is not surprising considering that the general manager has a highly questionable financial background which includes several bankrupcy proceedings.
I believe several ex-staff are still trying to obtain their legal entitlements with respect to unpaid super (and leave). You are certainly in a difficult position and this a@#ehole operator is responsible for maintaining such a poor scurge on the GA industry. This is why they are referred to commonly as bottom feeders and will never ever be anything more than a small-time operation.... always trying to run with the bigger boys, but always falling way way short.
What is even more ironic is the package that this GM is rumoured to be on, which is a fully maintained company SS commodore (for private use as well) and an amazing salary. My friend, walk when you can and leave the dump behind and do no favours for this guy. He'd push his own grandmother over if he knew he could steal a penny from her - exactly what he is doing with you.....last pointer - check your hand after you shake his hand next time - you might find yourself a few fingers short!
As for the whole government funding issue, what a crock of garbage. An absolute waste of time what they do and a farce if ever I have heard one. What next - an alien patrol? Just too rich all things considered.
Signed: Friend of Dookies.
I believe several ex-staff are still trying to obtain their legal entitlements with respect to unpaid super (and leave). You are certainly in a difficult position and this a@#ehole operator is responsible for maintaining such a poor scurge on the GA industry. This is why they are referred to commonly as bottom feeders and will never ever be anything more than a small-time operation.... always trying to run with the bigger boys, but always falling way way short.
What is even more ironic is the package that this GM is rumoured to be on, which is a fully maintained company SS commodore (for private use as well) and an amazing salary. My friend, walk when you can and leave the dump behind and do no favours for this guy. He'd push his own grandmother over if he knew he could steal a penny from her - exactly what he is doing with you.....last pointer - check your hand after you shake his hand next time - you might find yourself a few fingers short!
As for the whole government funding issue, what a crock of garbage. An absolute waste of time what they do and a farce if ever I have heard one. What next - an alien patrol? Just too rich all things considered.
Signed: Friend of Dookies.
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Finally....a right decision
Shellharbour Council finally made a right decision about the airport last night. NSWAir (aka Aerial Patrol) had tendered for more facilities on the airport claiming that they had charter work and tourism work which would see them employing upwards of 16 people (there own words) in the near future!
Who do they really think they are kidding.....after over 12 months of operations they have managed to do 3 charters despite their claims that they have a Conquest and Light Jet aircraft online for charter ops (obviously hidden away somewhere cause no-one has seen them yet!)
The budding new apprentice arrived in full kit at council pleading their case claiming council should hand over their bright new facilities to this mob cause they are major employers in the area. Even reported that they have claimed to councillors that they have been paying above-award wages to staff/pilots! (Yeah right; maybe to one or two of the non-flying bosses but certainly not to the aircrew)
When does the lying and conning stop!?
Who do they really think they are kidding.....after over 12 months of operations they have managed to do 3 charters despite their claims that they have a Conquest and Light Jet aircraft online for charter ops (obviously hidden away somewhere cause no-one has seen them yet!)
The budding new apprentice arrived in full kit at council pleading their case claiming council should hand over their bright new facilities to this mob cause they are major employers in the area. Even reported that they have claimed to councillors that they have been paying above-award wages to staff/pilots! (Yeah right; maybe to one or two of the non-flying bosses but certainly not to the aircrew)
When does the lying and conning stop!?
What a crock!!
ASKARI, this budding new apprentice you mention wouldn't go by the initials LK would he? If so he has probably been brain washed by the promises handed out by the GM there.
Above award wages?! Just go ahead and ask the former staff exactly how much they earned!
ASKARI, this budding new apprentice you mention wouldn't go by the initials LK would he? If so he has probably been brain washed by the promises handed out by the GM there.
Above award wages?!
Just go ahead and ask the former staff exactly how much they earned!
