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Old 5th Jul 2004, 08:03
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Quality flight schools in Australia

Hey all!

I would like more information on the reputation of the following flight schools in Australia:
Aerospace Aviation
Flight Training Australia
Western Australian Aviaiton College

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I've been told that Aerospace Aviation is a bad school. They treat their students in a bad attitude...

Give us the money, finished training you, good bye and good luck

Although I've never experienced them before so I stand corrected... Have a look at smaller schools (Non - reputable) because they're usually the ones with less students and they assist you more better due to the small number classes. They're just as good
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Have a look at smaller schools (Non - reputable) because they're usually the ones with less students and they assist you more better due to the small number classes.
You mean "not well known", I assume?
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QF, and just what is Aerospace supposed to do with you after you've finished training? They have done exactly what they are supposed to do. Train you to get your various licences and ratings. Whenever I have visited them Sue has made me feel very welcome. Of course, not every one has a great time at flying schools, I didn't at another on Bankstown and I left it.

I have flown at Aerospace and I haven't got a complaint about their instructors. Sue does a good flight test, makes you feel quite relaxed.

There are a couple of good schools on Bankstown. If you find Aerospace isn't what you want, have a look at Whitworth's.

If you have access to a car, I would strongly suggest you check out Liverpool Flying School at Hoxton Park. I did my CPL there. Very good value. Nice small school in the Sydney Training area.
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Personally, I would not recommend FTA simply for the reason they, like many others, are happy to take your money however the 'after sales service' leaves a lot to be desired...

I know personally a few people that have gotten further in their career by doing their course at a smaller school where it is more personally and you get to know people on a personally basis - NOT just another sausage from the sausage factory !!!

It is your call, but from my experience and the experience of others that i have spoken to - suggest looking elsewhere than FTA.

Thats my two cents worth....

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i fly at Crane air Bankstown, great school.
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Hi Redsnail,

Well I know a few pilots who went to the smaller schools and after they've trained you, they try their best to find you a first job or give a job for you at their school. Give you tips etc.

However, Aerospace Aviation I've heard doesn't assist you at all after they've finished training you. That's just what I heard so I might be wrong.
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Angry Bad Customer Service

Try to stay away from the Country schools around Australia. Very poor customer service... I was set to do first circuits with a young lad at the murray bridgee frying school. he canned on me with the excuse that he wanted to fly to sydney in a twen engined aircraft that he takes to sydney. he asked if I wanted to come along. they had no ther instructors available except this other guy called Rej. he said that he was too busy.. they rebooked me for the following week. This joe cancelled 6 other students because he wanted to fly this two-engined aeroplane. That is not fair! I met the chief pilot just driving out and spewed at him. quite frankly, i couldn't believe what he said about his staff. even if they did do something wrong you don't personally slag off your people to customers... if that joint operates that way, how many others are out there who have rec'd the same type of service? if an idiot like that is operating that kind of organisation, how good are his people going to be... any other people been treated poorly by this mob?
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Try to stay away from the Country schools around Australia. Very poor customer service...
This joe cancelled 6 other students because he wanted to fly this two-engined aeroplane. That is not fair!
No it’s not fair. But I can assure you that this type of thing happens at capital city flying schools as well. It happened to me at Bankstown on a number of occasions back in the 80’s. I think it is just as grossly unfair to label all country flying schools with the same brush because I can assure you that your experience is not the norm. From personal experience the country schools leave their city counterparts for dead when it comes to the quality of the training you will get and customer service. If you don't like the service, go elsewhere. Pretty simple really.
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Angry Country Schools

Naw, you are right - I wasn't being fair, as I've transferred to Aldinga, and the chaps down there are great... i guess that I just had a poor start... i'd never have anything to do with a school like that again, and when you get a chief instructor that calls his staff unreliable and "too big for thier own boots" plus calling them users and untrustworthy, I would definitely push on to other climes....
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Hey there Matt,
I see you're a 42 year old South African with an ATPL and a B737 rating whose current occupation is a librarian - Would you please explain to us why you would be interested in flying at Murray Bridge?
If you are going to create an account to bad mouth a flying school, at least create a profile which looks half believable.
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Ive had a fair bit to do with Curtis aviation over the years and would recommend them at the drop of a hat...

They have a wide range of aircraft with differing capabilities and skills (like aeros) and camden is a nice place to fly with barely any waiting time in the bays. I feel its really worth taking the drive out there...

If Bankstown is the place you are looking at, also drop in and check out Whitworths...

Cant comment on some of the other schools out there you mentioned.
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Could anyone comment on Forsyth Aviation at parafield?
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They have done exactly what they are supposed to do. Train you to get your various licences and ratings.
Which is fine, if they do that. I wasted considerable time and money at Aerospace, and ended up leaving after the quoted time to do an instructor rating had doubled, and I wasn't even half way through. This was due to their instructors not wanting to do briefings, and management not giving a rats. Then they had the hide to send me a 50 buck "cancellation fee". Yeah right, cheques in the mail!
guybrush,

A few points of advise:
Avoid paying for your course up front, a lot of the bigger schools will try this. Once they've got your money you're kinda stuck, and you can't walk away from them easily.

Don't believe the school's PR machine. Statistics do not show an impending worldwide pilot shortage, contrary to what they try to tell you. They will not help you find work after you finish. Their 20 year old instructors are most probably not "some of the most experienced in the field".

If possible get talking to current and former students, especially away from the school, and find out what's really going on.

Good Luck
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Thumbs up Forsyth Aviation

Forsyth Aviation... Great bunch of guys... by far, your best bet for the Parafield scene... Aldinga is great, too... Stay away from those morons elsewhere.....
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Thanks a lot for all the information, I really appreciate it.

However, could anyone shed more light on the following schools. I heard positive remarks about them on this forum:

- Sydney Flight Training Centre
- Western Australian Aviation College
- Geelong Flight Centre
- Avondale

Thanks again.

Cheers,
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Go to the dark side.

www.gnhs.com.au
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I agree totally with Matt Schoberg. If you're looking to fly in Adelaide, either of those schools will guide your training well.Personal experience with 'others' has proven the over-the-counter stories can be misleading to say the least.
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Flight Schools

as far as adelaide based flying schools go, cant disagree with any of the other post except to say that neither Forsyth's or Aldinga operate twins so if your looking at commercial training u really want to learn at a school that can let u loose in a twin to build some command time as that will put you ahead of most of the kids that only learn in a c172/pa28 then jump into a c172rg/pa28r for their commercial training. Also you would want to find a school that also operates a C210 as you can also build time in these aircraft which will be much more expensive than a c172, but you can cost share with some mates. This should not only help you get your first job as many companies that hire low time guys have insurance minimums of 10-20 hrs on 200 series cessna. this should help you get a start over a chump that had only leart in c172. the twin time will also help if you want to take the instructiong route as if you have 50 hrs twin you thatn get twin training approvals as a junior grade three which allows you be be more employable and doing twin training sh!ts all over abinito training.
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