Quality flight schools in Australia
Slight correction: Only the command time on the multi counts for getting a multi instructor rating. This can include up to 25 hrs ICUS.
Dual multi time doesn't count at all.
Dual multi time doesn't count at all.
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i dont know what you after in particular? so the best bet is to ring the schools and see what they have to offer. i only really know a little bit about the sydney schools.
syd flight training centre are a good organisation. good planes, great staff really willing to help.
i have heard rumours they are using some GFS (general flying services) planes or sharing sims or something, not 100% sure. but GFS are another good compnay to try, still quite small, i hear have good staff, new planes (not sure about hrs or anything??) and i believe they teach some cadets for qantas, well the melbourne diversion does.
the best thing is ring around find out whats good, price wise, plane wise and who is the friendliest.
however, its a dog eat dog world so everyone will try and tell you their the best
syd flight training centre are a good organisation. good planes, great staff really willing to help.
i have heard rumours they are using some GFS (general flying services) planes or sharing sims or something, not 100% sure. but GFS are another good compnay to try, still quite small, i hear have good staff, new planes (not sure about hrs or anything??) and i believe they teach some cadets for qantas, well the melbourne diversion does.
the best thing is ring around find out whats good, price wise, plane wise and who is the friendliest.
however, its a dog eat dog world so everyone will try and tell you their the best
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Hey all!
I would like more information on the reputation of the following flight schools in Australia:
Aerospace Aviation
Flight Training Australia
Western Australian Aviaiton College
Cheers,
guybrush
I would like more information on the reputation of the following flight schools in Australia:
Aerospace Aviation
Flight Training Australia
Western Australian Aviaiton College
Cheers,
guybrush
Much as most ppl here would recommend, myself included, the smaller country schools for training (for various reasons), as international students our choices are restricted to schools that show CRICOS approval.....student visa 'requirements'. (or am i limited in my insight here?). As such, we do run the risk of being products of a 'pilot factory' of sorts!...apart from having no idea whatsoever, of whether the 'friendly' marketing guy is giving you a true or 'virtual' picture.
Are there still any BIG schools, or any others suitable for student Visa's, existing in OZ?
Would appreciate any comments related to these schools or any others that you can point out.
It's queer, that the author of the original post picked up 3 schools from 3 different hubs...Bankstown, Archerfield, and Jandakot. Any significant anythings to look out for in choosing one of these.
I'd like to actually throw in another hub here...Morabbin. Any reputational aspects to look out from TVSA?
Thanks in advance.
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Someone out here must have SOME info on any ONE of the institutes mentioned in the previous post..??
or have they all hung up their boots!
Atleast from what i've gathered lately, they're all out there trying to scout for newbees....but what have they to offer this time around..? Same ol' sausage..?! or some decent quality instruction?
would much appreciate any insights from you folks on institutes catering to international students.
or have they all hung up their boots!
Atleast from what i've gathered lately, they're all out there trying to scout for newbees....but what have they to offer this time around..? Same ol' sausage..?! or some decent quality instruction?
would much appreciate any insights from you folks on institutes catering to international students.
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I am a bit late to defend Country schools - but here it goes...
A lot of people that have learnt to fly at busy airports say they miss out on the basic out of aeroplane training... For example, i know stories of city pilots landing at country aerodromes and having no idea how to refuel a plane because there's no one who drive the Avgas over and fills it themselves...
Where else are there aerodromes where you can practice glide approaches from above circuit height and not annoy anyone (can only do that at quiet aerodromes) - and not to mention you wont be charged with a landing fee.
Where else can you park your plane just off the runway, so you spend minimum time burning your money taxiing, and rarely have to wait in line to takeoff.
Sure, you need to train at the busy aerodromes to learn traffic awareness and their proceedures, but I say if the country offer the same prices as busy aerodromes, go the country all the way. It more hands on and you'll get a lot more out of your money!
TMP
A lot of people that have learnt to fly at busy airports say they miss out on the basic out of aeroplane training... For example, i know stories of city pilots landing at country aerodromes and having no idea how to refuel a plane because there's no one who drive the Avgas over and fills it themselves...
Where else are there aerodromes where you can practice glide approaches from above circuit height and not annoy anyone (can only do that at quiet aerodromes) - and not to mention you wont be charged with a landing fee.
Where else can you park your plane just off the runway, so you spend minimum time burning your money taxiing, and rarely have to wait in line to takeoff.
Sure, you need to train at the busy aerodromes to learn traffic awareness and their proceedures, but I say if the country offer the same prices as busy aerodromes, go the country all the way. It more hands on and you'll get a lot more out of your money!
TMP
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Agreed TMP.
But theres a lot of em big schools that use small airports and even Grass airfields for giving students that kinda training and exposure...
Eg. Aerospace Aviation, Bankstown. Most of they're training, and most other schools in YSBK for that matter, use Hoxton Park for circuit landings and other procedures not possible at their own busy hub. Doen't that kinda give ya more exposure..?best of both worlds thingy...
Dunno if theres such an arrangement at Archerfield or Melbourne....
Perth seems pretty clean o traffic aye?
Any comments on Janadakot?
But theres a lot of em big schools that use small airports and even Grass airfields for giving students that kinda training and exposure...
Eg. Aerospace Aviation, Bankstown. Most of they're training, and most other schools in YSBK for that matter, use Hoxton Park for circuit landings and other procedures not possible at their own busy hub. Doen't that kinda give ya more exposure..?best of both worlds thingy...
Dunno if theres such an arrangement at Archerfield or Melbourne....
Perth seems pretty clean o traffic aye?
Any comments on Janadakot?
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Folks
For a genuine school, it seems to be this one at Parafield - look under Choosing a Flight School (menu on LHS), shows sincerity to me:
http://www.learntofly.com.au/
For a genuine school, it seems to be this one at Parafield - look under Choosing a Flight School (menu on LHS), shows sincerity to me:
http://www.learntofly.com.au/
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Flying training packages
Irrespective of which schools you fly with, ...what's with the 'packages' that they offer?
What are the pros and cons one must look out for in package deals for flying training?
There's this feeling one gets, that most schools don't want you, unless you sign up for a comprehensive package with them. Obviously, they just wanna sniff out the greenback
This not limited to just the larger flying schools...even some of em country floks want to sign up students for 'packages'.
Any schools that anyone knows of here, that deal in packages alright,...but don't hurt too much?
What are the pros and cons one must look out for in package deals for flying training?
There's this feeling one gets, that most schools don't want you, unless you sign up for a comprehensive package with them. Obviously, they just wanna sniff out the greenback
This not limited to just the larger flying schools...even some of em country floks want to sign up students for 'packages'.
Any schools that anyone knows of here, that deal in packages alright,...but don't hurt too much?
hehehe, inxs you need to have your "PR machine BS meter" turned up to full for now on.
Lets just say I have had bad experiences with this mob and moved on.
I have heard good things about Forsythe and have "hired and flown" with them a few times can say that there haven't been too many hassles.
POLISH HOOKER, I can't see everyones obsession with PAYING for twin time during their training except if you want to go the Instructing Route. It seems to me that it would be much more cost effective to do your cpl in a 'large single' (someone will have a go at me for saying that
) where the hours will count for something, unlike pa28r hrs. Then do your twin CIR.
In terms of cessna-other-than-172 time at PF, there isn't much on offer. In terms of a/c avail for hire, you have a got a 210 with high requirements, a 206 that only gets hired out to Flyig School students and a 182 that i am currently trying to chase down. Speaking of which, if anyone knows of a 182 to hire at PF drop me a PM!
In terms of picking a flying school, try and get hold of current/past students and ask them if they are happy AND if they are going to stay with that FS for the rest of their training. Also treat "past students-where are they now" with a grain of salt.
Lets just say I have had bad experiences with this mob and moved on.
I have heard good things about Forsythe and have "hired and flown" with them a few times can say that there haven't been too many hassles.
POLISH HOOKER, I can't see everyones obsession with PAYING for twin time during their training except if you want to go the Instructing Route. It seems to me that it would be much more cost effective to do your cpl in a 'large single' (someone will have a go at me for saying that
) where the hours will count for something, unlike pa28r hrs. Then do your twin CIR. In terms of cessna-other-than-172 time at PF, there isn't much on offer. In terms of a/c avail for hire, you have a got a 210 with high requirements, a 206 that only gets hired out to Flyig School students and a 182 that i am currently trying to chase down. Speaking of which, if anyone knows of a 182 to hire at PF drop me a PM!
In terms of picking a flying school, try and get hold of current/past students and ask them if they are happy AND if they are going to stay with that FS for the rest of their training. Also treat "past students-where are they now" with a grain of salt.
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Thanx for your inputs Chadzat.
Anything else specific to trainig packages? Anyone out here enrolled into flying schools under such 'deals', if i may call em that!
Any past students from schools at Bankstown, Morabbin and Jandakot, would be great if you can PM me your experiences...
Thanx a lot.
Anything else specific to trainig packages? Anyone out here enrolled into flying schools under such 'deals', if i may call em that!
Any past students from schools at Bankstown, Morabbin and Jandakot, would be great if you can PM me your experiences...
Thanx a lot.
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I have found that the country schools do tend to produce a better pilot in the end. Having taught at MB and a few country schools, the guys and gals in the bush progess quicker and have few difficulties adapting to GAAP, SAP and CTA compared to our city cousins who seem to struggle with Non controlled because no-one is there to tell them where to land.
Someone mentioned GFS as a good school! You will do the 150 hours of a cpl, then rubber stamp you through whether you are up to standard or not. Ask around! Only the schools that are desperately short staffed will consider GFS instructors. The more junior the better, less sh1t and misconceptions to beat out them.
(speaking from experience)
Good luck hunting for a good school.
MM
Someone mentioned GFS as a good school! You will do the 150 hours of a cpl, then rubber stamp you through whether you are up to standard or not. Ask around! Only the schools that are desperately short staffed will consider GFS instructors. The more junior the better, less sh1t and misconceptions to beat out them.
(speaking from experience)
Good luck hunting for a good school.
MM
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Well, i know this ain't a thread on a war between the country clubs & the the 'airline pilot' trainers!
But just for curiosity, how do you guys distinguish between em?
Does operating outta a hub (Syd,Mel,Bri,Per) mean you're one of em biggie schools?
Wat exactly do ya mean by a small country club?...i mean how do ya define one?....any names to go with it? ..
But just for curiosity, how do you guys distinguish between em?
Does operating outta a hub (Syd,Mel,Bri,Per) mean you're one of em biggie schools?
Wat exactly do ya mean by a small country club?...i mean how do ya define one?....any names to go with it? ..
