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Old 25th Sep 2003, 08:13
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Arthur Morris @ BNE

HI all,

Has anyone worked for this company?
Off to drop in my details in a few weeks, thought I'd try and get a heads up on the place first.

Thanks all
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Without doubt the UGLIEST fleet of PA31s this side of a scrap yard

Doesn't look like any of them have seen a paint shop or interior refinish since they left Lock Haven 20 + years ago.

Never met the man but the presentation of the aeroplanes.......

If you get a guernsey would be interested to hear an inside opinion of the setup......good luck.
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Without doubt the UGLIEST fleet of PA31s this side of a scrap yard


Jamair;

Passing thru AF a while back, I had the same conclusion.

I thought they were wrecks waiting to be scrapped until I saw pilot & pax get in!.
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Old 26th Sep 2003, 10:25
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From my experience with the guy don't expect a warm reception from him.

He has a reputation for his inabililty to be nice to someone looking for work.
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How very true! Treated like **** when I went to see him .Couldn't even be bothered being polite .Give him a miss ,not worth it
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Was driving through Toowoomba last month while on holiday back home in Oz when I noticed a nice looking Citation on the ramp. Called in to have a closer look and met two pilots in the "terminal". We got chatting to discover that neither was the jet jockey but one of them was waiting for Arthur's Navajo to come in from the west. Their duty day is so long out to the rigs in central Oz that they can't operate the whole flight so this poor ****** got off early in the morning and spent the day at Twb's cheapest motel before taking over for the last leg of the day back to Brisvegas. Summary - a thirteen hour day for one hour in the logbook and a hundred bucks before you buy your lunch!
I don't think so.
And yes, the same old plane that Arthur had when I was doing rig pig runs in the Conquest back in 1993 arrived minutes later.
You can do better.
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Haven't seen the machines lately, and if I was carting rig pigs maybe I wouldn't spend $$$ on presentation. Whether it all works OK is more important, obviously (though one can be indicative of the other).
Can only echo the sentiments above, with regard to Arthur's demeanour - never had a pleasant converstion with him yet.
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Smile

And I thought I was the only poor ****** to have had the unpleasant experience with this individual. Thanks guys, you have made my day reading your non complimentary comments

Good luck to anyone going for a job with him.........what a !
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Old 27th Sep 2003, 10:29
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Gday all,

Only those that have not had the pleasure to work for Biggles would bag the operation and the machines.

Top class machines mechanically even though they look a bit average. Good paint and interior won't save your ass on a stinkin hot day in the desert, but impeccable maintenance and operation of the machines will.

One of the best jobs I have ever had!

I reiterate the first line of my post.

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G'day guys,

I've met Arthur f****n Morris over 10 years ago....sounds like he hasn't changed!!!!!!

I have to agree with all of the above comments.

Cheers....
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I'M Gone g'day bloke; I didn't bag the guy 'cause I don't know him; but I do bag the birds. (That's the PA31s, not the chicks.....)

I have also flown rig workers and while they often have a somewhat different perspective on the world than other passengers, I would not refer to them as 'rig pigs' any more than I would refer to other clients in that manner. I have had some very enlightening conversations with these folks.

Perhaps the contractor does not require nice aeroplanes, just safe ones - fair enough. BUT this operator also flys ad hoc Charter and in my opinion the condition of the aircraft reflects very poorly on the industry generally. Note: MY OPINION.

Visualise someone hopping off a International or Domestic jet or even a Regional turboprop, onto one of these aircraft for the last stage of a journey. Would their opinion of General Aviation be enhanced or detracted by the interior of torn, faded, smelly orange velour seats and the exterior still showing the faded RFDS artwork, with the leading edges and radome abraded down to metal / fibreglass? Passengers don't generally know what's going on under the cowls so their opinions are formed by what they see.

While my primary focus in my small part of the game is obviously the best humanly possible standards of safety and performance, I also make sure the aeroplanes LOOK as good as possible - it's just good business (I think). Cheers.
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Thanks everyone for your input, certainly very enlightning!

Looking for multi work around Brisbane on Chieftains or C310's.
Had heard about him from others that had a similar opinion.
Not in a real hurry go in seems a tad wasted effort.

Just got ATPL licence with just under 1000 Multi Command, any takers???????

May have to head back down south.........

Thanks again

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I agree with all above also............. Arthur Morris dealt me no hospitality six or so years ago when I too dropped in to say gadday and hand over a resume...........

He took my gleaming white resume, (didnt even look at the front page), screwed it up into a ball in front of me and threw it into the bin behind the counter!!

I actually thought he was having a bad day......... Didnt take me long to work out he was just a , Arthur Morris...........


Now, now Ace, behave! I'm sure you had a better upbringing than that!

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Gday all,

Maybe I missed something whilst thoroughly enjoying the experience gained and the enduring friendships made during my time with Arty.

Show some character and some persistence men! Did you chuck it all in the first time things didn't go well??

I am yet to see the Chief Pilot ANYWHERE welcome a wannabe with open arms and give them a great big cuddle just to make things all nice and cosy, just like when Mummy pick you up from school!

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I'm Gone...

I think you really did miss something I'm Gone. 11 negative posts versus your single positive post. I am not in the habit of "bagging" people as you say, but surely common sense prevails in this case as the numbers certainly stack up against the cretin. As Robin Williams once said somewhere, Arthur Morris is is more dire need of a b***job than other any white man in history

PS. A course in personal tact might help him too!

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I am yet to see the Chief Pilot ANYWHERE welcome a wannabe with open arms and give them a great big cuddle just to make things all nice and cosy, just like when Mummy pick you up from school
A while back I did the rounds of the equivalent operators at Bankstown, and while I was a fair way under the minimums for most of the companies, I was always treated with respect, especially by Rod Crane at Crane Air.

He was no doubt quite busy the day I turned up, but took the decency to sit me down and tell me how I could go about gaining employment there, and how the Bankstown scene worked. I was probably in his office for a good 15-20 minutes and at no time did he treat me like I was wasting his time. Told me a few good stories and seemed like a real character!

I don't know this Arthur Morris bloke from a bar of soap, but I tend to think he is in the minority with how he treats potential pilots. No-one expects to be given a "great big cudddle" mate!

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Old 30th Sep 2003, 23:02
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I’m Gone,

I am sure that he could be polite, it’s a part of all man kind.

BUT, wannabe, or no wannabe, there is no need to treat a potentially excellent employee like shyte. This is so stereotypical behavior of dubious operators in g.a.

Maybe he took a shine to you, BUT, to be frank, he did me a favor......... taught my naive personality that C.P.'s fit into 2 categories - some C.P.'s are fire trucked, and some are blinkin' good blokes that are worth the extra mile that most pilots willingly put in.

I know the above mentioned has nothing short of a POOR reputation within the aviation fraternity, and frankly, glad his company doesn’t tarnish my resume!!

Appologise Mr Moderator - sometimes its my mothers genes that arc me up when a topic strikes a cord - you know what I mean!!
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When I did the rounds looking for work ,most places I went to had no jobs going at the time. However almost everyone was polite about telling me. Some companies at least looked through my resume and some gave me advice and possible leads ,one of which eventually led to a job. Skytrans and Air Swift were patricularly helpfull.

Arthur Morris was without doubt the rudest ,most unhelpfull person I came across during many hours of door knocking. He treats pilots looking for a job like some kind of sub human low life scum.

Aviation is a small industry and what goes around comes around. Ten years down the track the new CPL who he was so rude to may be the chief pilot refusing to help him out with a breakdown.

Does he have to work at being nasty or does it just come naturally ?
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Well guys there is another operator that gives you the same welcome as known by Mr. Morris. And thats Luther the Boss Owner at Gunbalanya Air Charter in Low n Smelli in Western Arhnemland N.T. When I approached him about 6 years back he said " you wanna Job c@#$%^?". But then again Oenpelli isnt really too harsh an environ as Brisbane ?

Gday Luther Mate!
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Gday all,

I'm yet to see a post from anyone else who has actually worked for the man, only those that gave up the first time things didn't go so well.

I really don't wish to further wind anyone up, but from start to finish in reading the above posts, I can't help but think "What a bunch of sooks!"

It is nice to be treated with respect, couldn't agree more. But respect is earned gents, not awarded 'cos you have a frickin CPL and an instrument rating!

I sincerely hope I havn't upset anyone any further

Cheers,
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