Check your facts. DHL are using American operators and American pilots for their flights within the US.

Did I say US domestic DHL were run by foreign carriers?

So what's the difference between FedEx/UPS running CGN-CDG or Aerologic/CargoJet running CVG-MEX/YVR?

We're talking about domestic market here, and FedEx and UPS are doing that in the EU. I am kinda fed up of flying in formation with a UPS 767 on an instra-Spanish sector or ia FedEx 757 ntra-French sector.

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Not a lawyer so I don't know the full details of those stuffs, but I'm sure there is a reason why ASL Ireland is doing FedEx feeder flights for this purpose.

As much as you don't like that idea, nobody in the U.S expected Europeans to take an advantage of open skies by using flag of convenience :yuk:.

Hi Guys, I am looking at the option of doing my FAA CPL with IR rating. I already have quite a bit of jet hours experience but unfortunately I am from the MPL route and hence have to get some single engine PIC hours done. I am neither an US citizen nor a green card holder. If I manage to get a FAA CPL & maybe the ATPL, what are my job prospects? Thanks

ASL and West Atlantic are not operating all of the FedEx flights, and Star Air are not operating all of the UPS flights. Should be 100% on the European network.

And since when are Sweden and Belgium flag of convenience?

Norwegian Air International Scheme

If you have a problem, blame the union for not doing their job. Every T&C degradation comes from EU anyway.

Because they're talking those packages from the US to the real world? They're not allowed to carry packages within the US. Unlike the countless N-reg FedEx planes operating within Europe..

So you are saying Aerologic doing CVG-MEX is ok whilst FDX/UPS doing CGN-BCN isn't allowed? You are considering the whole Schengen as one country?

Mexico and USA are in NAFTA, a free trade agreement, or some sort of customs union at most, whereas the EU is a single market. NAFTA stops well short of the EU. Aerologic cannot transport packages from LAX to CVG whereas FDX can between CDG and CGN.

The original Chicago Convention and it’s extensions into 5th, 6th and 7th freedoms is between countries. So as long as there is British royalty, a French president, a German chancellor, etc., there will be foreign airlines operating between European countries.

Regularly see cargolux and similar from anc to the lower 48.

Good evening fellow pilots,

I'm an immigration and aviation attorney in the United States. I'm also Major Airline pilot.

In order to qualify for an EB-2 Visa with a National Interest Waiver, a pilot should have three if the following criteria met:

• At least 10 years of experience as a pilot.
• Valid FAA, IATA or ICAO certifications.
• Proof of membership in pilot professional associations.
• Evidence of compensation in the top 70% of pilots in country of employment at some point in last 5 years.
• Recognition of achievements in the aviation industry from government entities, peers, professional or business organizations.
• Anything that makes your training and/or experience special or noteworthy, including management, SIM instructor, and/or check airman.
• Minimum of 5000 hours as PIC.

The current processing time is 11-18 months.

If you have any questions, please free to reach out.

Jose Leon, Esq.
Leon Law, PLLC
LegalLeon.com
(904)982-0000 (WS)
[email protected]

My Ozzie friends are applying to Atlas, can UK passport holders do it aswell?

Yes. With the NIW, you don't need the sponsorship and can pursue any airline.

No, UK passport holders do not qualify for airline sponsorship in USA. Only countries with a free trade agreement with the USA can be sponsored, Australia, Singapore, Chile…….

The only way is by family rights, or a H1B but pretty much no airlines are sponsoring H1Bs as it seems its harder work then getting guys on E3s.

There is various law firms saying you can get a green card blah blah blah, in reality you pay anything from 20-30K USD upfront and have a 12 month minimum wait time to see if its approved or not, of course they will tell you its a high chance.

Hi BAe 146-100,


Most things in USCIS are taking 12 months plus, even immediate relative petitions.

If anyone would like to discuss their individual situation, feel free to reach out. I'm an immigration attorney and airline pilot in the US.

To date I have not heard from a single law firm that has been successful with EB2-NIW applications for pilots specifically. EB2-NIW is a real thing, I get that but for pilots specifically with only flying qualifications, no. I am yet to be shown actual proof or spoken to someone that has been approved. If it was a thing, there would be 100s of pilots in the US already on this type of visa like the E3.
Big red flag with no actual proof and it all just seems like a way for law firms to exploit a vulnerable situation.

Definitely, a bunch of them have jumped on the bandwagon and will be more then happy to take your money and sit on it, most of them do not give refunds either if it is rejected. What is more disappointing is so called airline pilots in the USA trying to make a quick buck on referrals by aligning themselves with these law firms……

Hi everyone.

So im asking for a friend, he has his FAA CPL ME/SE/IR with about 500 hrs. He has the opportunity to get his green card holder through some people. As the saying goes "its not what you know its who you know". he's keen to jump on the band wagon but I think its a gamble to just go get the green card straight away. even with a green card he still doesn't have the hours to even be considered hirable, I'm I wrong or right?. I told him, one doesn't need be a green card holder to work in the US as a pilot he can get a work visa but first he needs to build more hours.

Im not a US citizen so I don't have much knowledge on what the pilot situation or the hiring process is if companies are only hiring foreigners with green cards due to the headache and cost of having to sponsor someone especially with low flight hours that he has.

So should he go get the green card (takes months even a few years t get it before he can work form my understanding) and hope for the best or
first build the hours get at least 1500hrs and then apply and hope that someone will sponsor him for a work visa

Any light shed on this would be much appreciated.

Safe flying everyone..