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arcdu...a piper cub can stall and the recovery is the same as any other plane.
lots of things caused the colgan crash
lots of things caused the air france crash.
it wasn't so very long ago...well maybe it was...I didn't get a regional job with less than an ATP and more than 1500 hours. It has been only recently that you could get an airline job with 300 hours or so and be placed into the right seat of a regional jet or advanced turboprop.
becoming an airline pilot is quite hard...and maybe it should be, it weeds out some people who won't give flying their all.
lots of things caused the colgan crash
lots of things caused the air france crash.
it wasn't so very long ago...well maybe it was...I didn't get a regional job with less than an ATP and more than 1500 hours. It has been only recently that you could get an airline job with 300 hours or so and be placed into the right seat of a regional jet or advanced turboprop.
becoming an airline pilot is quite hard...and maybe it should be, it weeds out some people who won't give flying their all.
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Ok, I had 1100 hrs, and a commercial ticket and then worked a 1000 hr night IFR cargo, single pilot. Did not know what a FD or MCP or CDU was.
Yes, I landed with a measured ceiling of 60 ft.
After 3500 hrs, I was refused as a FO 737. Just a propellor driver.
Now I teach people to fly a 737, type rated, and all that crap.
Actually, I do not teach them the 737, I try to explain a 10 knot x-wind landing, a holding, and how to steer a straight in ILS using a FD.
And yes, sometimes, I succeed.
But it is hard work, and am looking forward to retire on my boat.
Yes, I landed with a measured ceiling of 60 ft.
After 3500 hrs, I was refused as a FO 737. Just a propellor driver.
Now I teach people to fly a 737, type rated, and all that crap.
Actually, I do not teach them the 737, I try to explain a 10 knot x-wind landing, a holding, and how to steer a straight in ILS using a FD.
And yes, sometimes, I succeed.
But it is hard work, and am looking forward to retire on my boat.
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flare pilot you are right, a piper cub can stall just the same as any other aeroplane, and the recovery is the same. However it rarely does it at night, in cloud, rain and poor visibility when it's crew are not expecting it because they are not familiar with the conditions they have been flying in.
The crew of that Q400 had to do one thing to prevent the accident, and that is to fly the aeroplane as they always flew it. 180 knots on base leg and 160 to 4 miles with the aircraft configured at the places they normally configured it and they wouldn't have crashed. The fact that they failed to do so, and failed to react to the speed tape warning them of the impending stick shake, and then failed to react to the stick shake properly probably would not have been avoided if they had spent 1500 hours bumbling about in VFR single engine aeroplanes. It might have been avoided if the 1500 hours had been a bit of flight instruction and then single crew IFR in a PA31 on cold dark nights, but that is not what the rules require.
Latetonight, as an aviation professional you must realise that the number of posts a person makes on pprune has no correlation to the number of hours in their log books?
The crew of that Q400 had to do one thing to prevent the accident, and that is to fly the aeroplane as they always flew it. 180 knots on base leg and 160 to 4 miles with the aircraft configured at the places they normally configured it and they wouldn't have crashed. The fact that they failed to do so, and failed to react to the speed tape warning them of the impending stick shake, and then failed to react to the stick shake properly probably would not have been avoided if they had spent 1500 hours bumbling about in VFR single engine aeroplanes. It might have been avoided if the 1500 hours had been a bit of flight instruction and then single crew IFR in a PA31 on cold dark nights, but that is not what the rules require.
Latetonight, as an aviation professional you must realise that the number of posts a person makes on pprune has no correlation to the number of hours in their log books?
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Just to assure you, Arcdu, I am flying for 32 years as a professional. I have, and flew 10 type ratings, none of which I paid. Now I am only teaching. Please tell me what you want to explain me. Especially how to recover from a stall..
And the hours, well I was too lazy to fill them in after 15.000. How about you?
And the hours, well I was too lazy to fill them in after 15.000. How about you?
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Latetonite,
At no point have I questioned your credentials or experience, but you have questioned mine based on number of posts on pprune, the relevance of which escapes me.
I don't need to argue with you by PM, I have less years in the industry than you, having only been flying for a living since 1986, and less hours than yourself, having only reached 14500. I also have fewer type ratings than you, only five, but like yourself none of them paid for by me.
I currently am a captain on a 737-800, have previously been a check airman and instructor on the Q400. Before flying a multicrew aircraft I flew just over 5000 hours as a flight instructor, on single pilot IFR ops and bush flying.
Now I am in my place can we discuss the original subject?
At no point have I questioned your credentials or experience, but you have questioned mine based on number of posts on pprune, the relevance of which escapes me.
I don't need to argue with you by PM, I have less years in the industry than you, having only been flying for a living since 1986, and less hours than yourself, having only reached 14500. I also have fewer type ratings than you, only five, but like yourself none of them paid for by me.
I currently am a captain on a 737-800, have previously been a check airman and instructor on the Q400. Before flying a multicrew aircraft I flew just over 5000 hours as a flight instructor, on single pilot IFR ops and bush flying.
Now I am in my place can we discuss the original subject?
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For all those posts and type ratings and hours you have... ironic that you come across as just a 13-year-old. Arcdu just put you in your place mate... without even trying. Your ship has sailed.
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