Gaining American citizenship
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Gaining American citizenship
Dear All,
I was more or less recently offered a position with American Eagle - had I been an American Citizen... I could have taken the position.
At the moment, the only ways I know of to gain permanent resident status are to 1) Win a green card lottery, 2) Be sponsored by a comany or 3) Marry into an American family.
Are there any steps I can take to gain permanent resident status? My dream is to fly in America...
Thanks in advance,
WWA
I was more or less recently offered a position with American Eagle - had I been an American Citizen... I could have taken the position.
At the moment, the only ways I know of to gain permanent resident status are to 1) Win a green card lottery, 2) Be sponsored by a comany or 3) Marry into an American family.
Are there any steps I can take to gain permanent resident status? My dream is to fly in America...
Thanks in advance,
WWA
At the moment, the only ways I know of to gain permanent resident status are to 1) Win a green card lottery, 2) Be sponsored by a company or 3) Marry into an American family.
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Getting married to an American lady may be a fast track way to a "green" card [not so green anymore], but be aware of typical, soap opera trained, back talking, high maintenance, cun!-dead bimbo bitches.
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Getting married to an American lady may be a fast track way to a "green" card [not so green anymore],
The reason? Greed and selflessness of a few screw it up for the majority. There were men and women that were getting married 10 to 15 times a year. All an alien (not the spaceman type
) had to do was to get to Las Vegas, get married, get the paperwork filed, go to Mexico and get a divorce.Sad really.
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Nah, that one got way too popular, nobody cares these days. Now if you could raft the Bering Strait and say you hate Vladimir, that might draw some press.
The marriage option is still on the table, it's just a lot harder. The Feds are going to be checking in with you for something like three years after the wedding, and if there's trouble in paradise, you're back on a plane to wherever. Besides that, there's certainly not a lot of support for people wanting to come here and be pilots - we've got more low-timers than we know what to do with, and the Feds aren't very enthusiastic about importing experienced ones. Where are you now? I'm living the aforementioned dream (American regionals! Whee!), so maybe we could trade?
The marriage option is still on the table, it's just a lot harder. The Feds are going to be checking in with you for something like three years after the wedding, and if there's trouble in paradise, you're back on a plane to wherever. Besides that, there's certainly not a lot of support for people wanting to come here and be pilots - we've got more low-timers than we know what to do with, and the Feds aren't very enthusiastic about importing experienced ones. Where are you now? I'm living the aforementioned dream (American regionals! Whee!), so maybe we could trade?
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WrongWayAround,
The Regionals are all dropping their minimums and this is creating a real problem for the flight academies in retaining their CFIs. I would recommend that you talk to a few of the academies or flight schools and ask if they would sponsor you for a green card in return for 2 or 3 years of service. Check it out. It can't hurt and it sure beats trying to put on an act for 3 years. The INS has seen it all, heard it all, been there, done that, and got more than its share of t-shirts. Unless you really know the girl and trust her I wouldn't do that because if you're busted it means bye-bye USA for up to 10 years and with it any chance of getting into the US airline industry.
Good luck
MN
The Regionals are all dropping their minimums and this is creating a real problem for the flight academies in retaining their CFIs. I would recommend that you talk to a few of the academies or flight schools and ask if they would sponsor you for a green card in return for 2 or 3 years of service. Check it out. It can't hurt and it sure beats trying to put on an act for 3 years. The INS has seen it all, heard it all, been there, done that, and got more than its share of t-shirts. Unless you really know the girl and trust her I wouldn't do that because if you're busted it means bye-bye USA for up to 10 years and with it any chance of getting into the US airline industry.
Good luck
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Stay at home...you are not especially wanted in the good 'ole US of A.
Plenty of pilots here, to take the necessary positions.
OTOH, if you insist, bring plenty of CASH.
Do my comments seem unusually harsh?
Well, think for a moment.
There are literally hundreds of US citizens applying for pilot jobs in America.
Many (most) have PAID for their ratings, to obtain that position with an airline.
Born here and raised here.
Do you not think that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement folks are on the lookout for those that want to enter into marriage, to obtain US residency status?
If so, you are sadly mistaken.
The screws are turning, ever so slowly, to be on the lookout for these malcontents.
Source:
An ICE official here in Arizona.
Beware.
The ICE folks are prepared to nail these folks who enter into a sham marriage, to gain entry.
I kid you not.
Forewarned is forearmed.
Plenty of pilots here, to take the necessary positions.
OTOH, if you insist, bring plenty of CASH.
Do my comments seem unusually harsh?
Well, think for a moment.
There are literally hundreds of US citizens applying for pilot jobs in America.
Many (most) have PAID for their ratings, to obtain that position with an airline.
Born here and raised here.
Do you not think that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement folks are on the lookout for those that want to enter into marriage, to obtain US residency status?
If so, you are sadly mistaken.
The screws are turning, ever so slowly, to be on the lookout for these malcontents.
Source:
An ICE official here in Arizona.
Beware.
The ICE folks are prepared to nail these folks who enter into a sham marriage, to gain entry.
I kid you not.
Forewarned is forearmed.
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For most US positions, just Permanent Residency will do. Of course, if you are married to a US Citizen, you would still need to apply for this.
There are a few jobs that require citizenship, because they are usually governmental or require a security clearance because they are involved in military contracts. However, they are not the usual airlines, and besides, would you really want to have that on your conscience, basically screwing small countries while serving as a henchman of Corporate America's black hand in the name of "national security"?
There are a few jobs that require citizenship, because they are usually governmental or require a security clearance because they are involved in military contracts. However, they are not the usual airlines, and besides, would you really want to have that on your conscience, basically screwing small countries while serving as a henchman of Corporate America's black hand in the name of "national security"?
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PAF...
I'm currently in the throws of applying for the 'green card ' as I'll be marrying a lady over there... She's applying for citizenship after being an 'Alien ' for about 15 yrs.. My immigration lawyer is confident that the process of the GC shouldn't take more than 6 months where we are but that it can vary according to the State and immigration dept being dealt with.... The things we do for our ladies... !
I'm currently in the throws of applying for the 'green card ' as I'll be marrying a lady over there... She's applying for citizenship after being an 'Alien ' for about 15 yrs.. My immigration lawyer is confident that the process of the GC shouldn't take more than 6 months where we are but that it can vary according to the State and immigration dept being dealt with.... The things we do for our ladies... !
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I'm from the UK and married a US citizen in 2005. It took exactly 1 year from start to finish to get my green card. We were living in the UK during the whole application process.
I am now in the US and hoping to get on with a regional soon. I know that the money will be very poor for at least the first 3-4 years of my career, but am prepared to give it a go and am under no illusions about how tough it's going to be financially.
There is a massive hiring boom here at the moment, regionals like AE are hoping to get 700 pilots in 2007 alone and just can't fill the classes with suitable applicants every month. The majors are also starting to re-hire, which is driving the boom below them with upward movement and career progression
Things are definitely starting to drive in the right direction, unfortunately though, pay and conditions are not as they used to be, but if there turns out to be a shortage of qualified pilots, things may change for the better, sooner.
I am now in the US and hoping to get on with a regional soon. I know that the money will be very poor for at least the first 3-4 years of my career, but am prepared to give it a go and am under no illusions about how tough it's going to be financially.
There is a massive hiring boom here at the moment, regionals like AE are hoping to get 700 pilots in 2007 alone and just can't fill the classes with suitable applicants every month. The majors are also starting to re-hire, which is driving the boom below them with upward movement and career progression
Things are definitely starting to drive in the right direction, unfortunately though, pay and conditions are not as they used to be, but if there turns out to be a shortage of qualified pilots, things may change for the better, sooner.
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The regionals are hurting for pilots and lowering their mins, some below 500 hours and "1" multi, from what I've heard. That's really scary. However, the shysters that run these airlines still won't raise the pay, but might offer a "signing bonus" to suckers a few kids into their web. Places like Eagle can't attract quality candidates due to the lousy upgrade time, the poor pay, and the way they treat their employees. But they won't improve conditions as long as they can sucker the desperate into working for them.
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If only the public knew what they had sitting up front they might be very unhappy... one guy with reasonable experience... the other to keep the seat warm and the airline and FAA happy. Suprised the press haven't picked up on it either side of the Atlantic.
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Canadians?
Does anyone know what it's like for Canadian pilots getting jobs south of the border? I've never really looked into this, but are there any waivers/agreements (in terms of rights to work) for Canadians (since the ties between Canada and America are so close)?
Still need the green card or citizenship like everyone else? Or is the green card easier to get? Thanks for any insight!
Still need the green card or citizenship like everyone else? Or is the green card easier to get? Thanks for any insight!