DY pilots not working on days off.
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Yes, pilots in DY are not to work on off days following the cancelation of the off-day-sale-agreement. No information on cancelled flights.
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Ser at det kun er VG og DN som skriver om dette, noe som reflekterer hvor godt grep Kjos har på media 
. Bortforklaringene til kanselleringene er tynnere enn syltynne, og i VG kommer det klart fram at de ansatte blir kjørt temmelig hardt samtidig som deres eksistens som fast ansatte er seriøst truet. Leser også at dagsprogrammet deres er budsjettert med 8 fly der crewet er på fridag... så da trenger man ikke bruke et streikevåpen for å få stor oppmerksomhet 
Det er nå det skjer, og det er utrolig viktig for alle andre å støtte opp om våre kolleger i DY med deres kamp mot intern dumping slik at alle kan ha muligheten til å ha bra og ordnede arbeidsforhold. Når de grunnsteinene er lagt så kan man igjen konkurrere på mer likt grunnlag.
. Bortforklaringene til kanselleringene er tynnere enn syltynne, og i VG kommer det klart fram at de ansatte blir kjørt temmelig hardt samtidig som deres eksistens som fast ansatte er seriøst truet. Leser også at dagsprogrammet deres er budsjettert med 8 fly der crewet er på fridag... så da trenger man ikke bruke et streikevåpen for å få stor oppmerksomhet Det er nå det skjer, og det er utrolig viktig for alle andre å støtte opp om våre kolleger i DY med deres kamp mot intern dumping slik at alle kan ha muligheten til å ha bra og ordnede arbeidsforhold. Når de grunnsteinene er lagt så kan man igjen konkurrere på mer likt grunnlag.
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Lycka till säger jag. Precis som Guttn säger så är det här en viktig kamp för hela branschen, inte bara norwegians piloter.
För vart ska ni vända er, ni som tänker att ni ska ta ett par hårda år i bolag X och sedan gå vidare till ett bra jobb, när alla de bra jobben har blivit likadana som det ni redan sitter på? Tids nog så är vi alla egenföretagare, jagade av skatteverk och fogde, med subpart Q på 1400h/år och noll pension/försäkring/LoL och ny basering varannan månad. Då är det slut med att tacka ner till captain's discretion när det är 3 veckor kvar tills kontraktet ska förnyas och barnen behöver mat på bordet. Myndigheterna och bolagen är varmt överens om framtiden, och VI är som de säger, expendable.
Grundproblemet är egentligen att luftfartsmyndigheterna inte gör sitt jobb. De bryr sig inte om de som arbetar inom branschen, de bryr sig om pengar. De är köpta för länge sedan av lobbyister och har slutat låtsas som att något annat spelar roll. De sörjer inte för reglerade arbetstider som är rimliga, för sund konkurrens, för lika villkor. Det är grundproblemet. Egentligen är de dem vi borde strejka mot. En sammanslagen strejk av samtliga bolag inom EU. En fin pipe dream
Sluta tassa runt och gör som charterkabinen nyss. Säg vad ni vill ha, sätt ett datum och sedan strejkar ni. Det är nog enda sättet tyvärr. Alla andra metoder kommer utnyttjas av ledningen till att förhala och splittra processen.
Good luck
För vart ska ni vända er, ni som tänker att ni ska ta ett par hårda år i bolag X och sedan gå vidare till ett bra jobb, när alla de bra jobben har blivit likadana som det ni redan sitter på? Tids nog så är vi alla egenföretagare, jagade av skatteverk och fogde, med subpart Q på 1400h/år och noll pension/försäkring/LoL och ny basering varannan månad. Då är det slut med att tacka ner till captain's discretion när det är 3 veckor kvar tills kontraktet ska förnyas och barnen behöver mat på bordet. Myndigheterna och bolagen är varmt överens om framtiden, och VI är som de säger, expendable.
Grundproblemet är egentligen att luftfartsmyndigheterna inte gör sitt jobb. De bryr sig inte om de som arbetar inom branschen, de bryr sig om pengar. De är köpta för länge sedan av lobbyister och har slutat låtsas som att något annat spelar roll. De sörjer inte för reglerade arbetstider som är rimliga, för sund konkurrens, för lika villkor. Det är grundproblemet. Egentligen är de dem vi borde strejka mot. En sammanslagen strejk av samtliga bolag inom EU. En fin pipe dream
Sluta tassa runt och gör som charterkabinen nyss. Säg vad ni vill ha, sätt ett datum och sedan strejkar ni. Det är nog enda sättet tyvärr. Alla andra metoder kommer utnyttjas av ledningen till att förhala och splittra processen.
Good luck
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Jeg håper Norwegian-piloter føler at de har støtten fra alle skandinaviske kolleger i luften. Hva dere gjør idag vil ha stor effekt på den bransjen vi alle er en del av i fremtiden, og dere bør stå støtt mot arbeidsgiver i disse spørsmålene med viten om at pilotkolleger i andre selskap i skandinavia står fjellstøtt med dere.
Lykke til.
Lykke til.
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DY wetleasing Jet2
Newspaper rumours says Norwegian are so understaffed currently ( partly due to FlightDeck not performing overTime since start of March, on scheduled days off) that UK-company operating B737 on domestic Norwegian flights.
Flygtorget » Flygnyheter » Flygnyheter » Engelska Jet2 rycker in för Norwegian
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Crossing picket lines
In the midst of industrial actions attempting to prevent further outsourcing and securing the future of Scandinavian aviation, we see Southern European machos applying in droves for the contract jobs, as well as Brits picking up the "surplus" flying. For all practical purposes they are crossing picket lines and should be treated as such 
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Slightly disingenious sh1t-stirring on your part ?
A new Union leader has been elected. He seems to be very focused on reconciliation, the Boss is not stupid, so I doubt this will be entirely rebuffed.
The current pilot management, whom I am sure you would agree must have a foot in both camps, are optimistic, and many have been here a VERY long time.
The current Union attitude appears to be directed towards integration of contractors rather than marginilisation/rejection.
I can only assume from your posting that you are neither employed/ nor in any way intimately connected (perhaps rejected?) , with DY, & we should therefore view your assessment of the current situation as a personal opinion, which of course you are entitled to hold/voice.
A new Union leader has been elected. He seems to be very focused on reconciliation, the Boss is not stupid, so I doubt this will be entirely rebuffed.
The current pilot management, whom I am sure you would agree must have a foot in both camps, are optimistic, and many have been here a VERY long time.
The current Union attitude appears to be directed towards integration of contractors rather than marginilisation/rejection.
I can only assume from your posting that you are neither employed/ nor in any way intimately connected (perhaps rejected?) , with DY, & we should therefore view your assessment of the current situation as a personal opinion, which of course you are entitled to hold/voice.
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Obviously struck a nerve there! 
No pissing contest will ensue, as your last paragraph devalues the rest of your ludicrous post and therefore is not worthwhile commenting really. Tail winds on your integration project
No pissing contest will ensue, as your last paragraph devalues the rest of your ludicrous post and therefore is not worthwhile commenting really. Tail winds on your integration project
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"The current Union attitude appears to be directed towards integration of contractors rather than marginilisation/rejection."
Den skjønte jeg ikke helt? Er foreningens holdning at man skal integrere fast ansatte med kontraktspiloter?
Hvordan gjør man det?
Den skjønte jeg ikke helt? Er foreningens holdning at man skal integrere fast ansatte med kontraktspiloter?
Hvordan gjør man det?
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I don't know the "hows" of the situation, but am told that this is the direction the Union would like to go. They seem to believe that going in the direction of integration is more likely to protect their own situation, than a stance of absolute rejection.
Basically, Norwegian needs pilots, and merely rejecting the newcomers (for whatever reason) seems to have been ruled out as likely provoking an escalation of the conflict (to the detriment of the company) rather than providing a solution.
I think this is a very sensible & prosaic attitude, and probably why those much better qualified than me to judge, have expressed their optimism that things are moving in the right direction.
Basically, Norwegian needs pilots, and merely rejecting the newcomers (for whatever reason) seems to have been ruled out as likely provoking an escalation of the conflict (to the detriment of the company) rather than providing a solution.
I think this is a very sensible & prosaic attitude, and probably why those much better qualified than me to judge, have expressed their optimism that things are moving in the right direction.
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With all due respect captplaystation, you are a contractor and as such I guess you would defend of DEC contractors until hell freezes over...
Truth is that the DY pilots union never had a problem with contractors. All they asked was that the company would hire them after six months of service if they were still needed.
This time it's a bit different. The company has clearly stated that no more pilots will be hired direct by DY and if you're an F/O you'll have to take a leave of absence and resort to a contract employment if you ever want to be a captain.
So please captplaystation, appreciate and respect the gravity of your actions. I assume that you are AGP based and as such you are in effect TRP based. DY has a long list of suitable candidates for your position but they have hired you to weaken the union and by so cheating them out of a much deserved command....
Hank
Truth is that the DY pilots union never had a problem with contractors. All they asked was that the company would hire them after six months of service if they were still needed.
This time it's a bit different. The company has clearly stated that no more pilots will be hired direct by DY and if you're an F/O you'll have to take a leave of absence and resort to a contract employment if you ever want to be a captain.
So please captplaystation, appreciate and respect the gravity of your actions. I assume that you are AGP based and as such you are in effect TRP based. DY has a long list of suitable candidates for your position but they have hired you to weaken the union and by so cheating them out of a much deserved command....
Hank
