SAS ansetter 130 piloter
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SAS ansetter 130 piloter
Ser at flere aviser sier at SAS skal ansette 130 piloter som har vært sparket tidligere. Står også at mange av disse jobber i Norwegian. Noen som vet hvor mange som kommer fra Norwegian og hvor mange som fremdeles står i køen før SAS kan ansette "ferske piloter"?
Skulle SAS sparke disse en gang til er døren da helt stengt i Norwegian?
Noen som vet hvor mange Norwegian skal ha i 2012?
Ettersom det ser ut som økonomien går på en smell snart så hadde det vært kjekt å høre noen positive nyheter! Noen som tør å gjette på hvor mange arbeidsledige piloter det er i Norge? Pilotmangel er spådd mange ganger, og jeg tror vi er milevis unna det, men 130 er jo et ganske betydelig antall som bør hjelpe godt hvis mange av disse SAS pilotene jobber i skandinavia!
Skulle SAS sparke disse en gang til er døren da helt stengt i Norwegian?
Noen som vet hvor mange Norwegian skal ha i 2012?
Ettersom det ser ut som økonomien går på en smell snart så hadde det vært kjekt å høre noen positive nyheter! Noen som tør å gjette på hvor mange arbeidsledige piloter det er i Norge? Pilotmangel er spådd mange ganger, og jeg tror vi er milevis unna det, men 130 er jo et ganske betydelig antall som bør hjelpe godt hvis mange av disse SAS pilotene jobber i skandinavia!
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highly doubt that they will g back to SK a few of them are with EK, EY, QR etc and why the heck would they give up a command there and go back to a lesser career
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Snakket forleden med en SAS pilot som har vært på permisjon i Emirates. Han hadde vært Kapt på B777 der et års tid og ville nå tilbake til SAS etter endt permisjon. Han kommer tilbake til SAS som styrmann langt ned på listen. Hvorfor? I Skandinavia har vi en litt annen kultur enn der nede. Der nede har piloter fått sparken for operative uheldigheter som ville være utenkelig her hjemme. Er ikke sundt å jobbe under slike forhold for skandinaver som har en jobb å gå til her hjemme!
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180 pilots have been asked, 50 answered no, and the remaining 130 are coming back. In addition a lot of pilots being fired were re-hired before they even left the company.
As I understand, most of the pilots which will not come back are pilots fired from SAS a long time ago, meaning that they had only 2-3 years seniority from SAS, and are now captains with 8-10 years seniority in DY, Easyjet and some other major european airlines.
Almost all pilots flying in the middle east are coming back - being a captain one a big bird is not the only important thing in life...! I would have done the same!
By the way - to the first question: I have heard that the number returning from DY to SAS is 15-20 pilots.
As I understand, most of the pilots which will not come back are pilots fired from SAS a long time ago, meaning that they had only 2-3 years seniority from SAS, and are now captains with 8-10 years seniority in DY, Easyjet and some other major european airlines.
Almost all pilots flying in the middle east are coming back - being a captain one a big bird is not the only important thing in life...! I would have done the same!
By the way - to the first question: I have heard that the number returning from DY to SAS is 15-20 pilots.
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There is bound to be more than the 180 guys? Still guys from my outfit who has said yes to coming back but are still waiting for an interview, they were laid off in 03...
By the way, and back to the original question, how many guys are needed in DY in 2012? Are they all gonna be cadets? And on which contract?
By the way, and back to the original question, how many guys are needed in DY in 2012? Are they all gonna be cadets? And on which contract?
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Why....? I did not say that SAS have fired 180 pilots during the past 10 years. SAS had to offer re-employment to 180 pilots to get the 130 they needed within the next months... I suppose your friend is lower on the list than the 180 then? I don't quite understand what you mean....
Regarding DY, I suppose some of the DY guys know something....?
Regarding DY, I suppose some of the DY guys know something....?
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The many of the SAS guys I talk to at EK plan on returning to SAS. They were given a great opportunity to take a leave of absence and keep their seniority and have their pensions paid whilst they were away - what a great deal! This is the package I was told they were given but they must now decide to return or stay away. What the middle east does not offer is a pension and what you guys get is worth more than you realise. For the SAS guys that came to EK and got their wide body commands and made some tax free cash - LUCKY THEM, but now they see the light and many are returning.
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Can't blame anyone leaving the middle east..!! Not even a left seat is enough to consider staying there..!
So to all the guys and girls going back congrats on a ticket back to the civilized world..!:-)
So to all the guys and girls going back congrats on a ticket back to the civilized world..!:-)
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rom you haven't been there long enough hehe. me 14 years and only the last one sucked. after a stint in asia and now europe, going back to saudi.
europe is down the drain for the next 5-10 years so what is there to chose from....
you just need to accept reality. sas might have a bunch of retirees coming up but in the long run the airline is down the drain too.
i remember the aura it had in the 70/80's. it was incredible but now the PINK elephant will soon succumb to LH or another global operator who will use it as a feeder with the occasional direct route.
sas just lack scale economies in terms of fuel purchase, maintenance, crewing, finance etc
europe is down the drain for the next 5-10 years so what is there to chose from....
you just need to accept reality. sas might have a bunch of retirees coming up but in the long run the airline is down the drain too.
i remember the aura it had in the 70/80's. it was incredible but now the PINK elephant will soon succumb to LH or another global operator who will use it as a feeder with the occasional direct route.
sas just lack scale economies in terms of fuel purchase, maintenance, crewing, finance etc
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Hi jackx123
You might be right... But I would take the chance if the opportunity came to go back to scandinavia..( Never flew there besides out of ekrk for training). I have done my tour of Asia now ME..!!
Would gladly give up my seat here for any back home... The dream of expat life is for me over...
You might be right... But I would take the chance if the opportunity came to go back to scandinavia..( Never flew there besides out of ekrk for training). I have done my tour of Asia now ME..!!
Would gladly give up my seat here for any back home... The dream of expat life is for me over...
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Noen som har hørt noe fra SAS ?
Fikk en mail fra SAS for noen mnd siden, der de skrev at de først kom til å ta inn de som tidligere har jobbet der, og at de seinere ville trenge "nye" piloter.
Noen som har hørt noe etter dette ?
En av mine danske kolleger sier hun tror det kan gå 1-3 år, etter å ha snakket med en dansk instruktør/treningskaptein.
Hvor mange timer totalt og på jet har dere som søker SAS ?
Selv har jeg 3500 timer, og 2500 på 737, og lurer på å søke til midtøsten. (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, FlyDubai)
Noen som har hørt noe etter dette ?
En av mine danske kolleger sier hun tror det kan gå 1-3 år, etter å ha snakket med en dansk instruktør/treningskaptein.
Hvor mange timer totalt og på jet har dere som søker SAS ?
Selv har jeg 3500 timer, og 2500 på 737, og lurer på å søke til midtøsten. (Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, FlyDubai)
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Har du peiling på erfaringsnivået som søkerene til SAS har?
Virker som de samme søker over alt så det kan gi en pekepin på hvor mange som er tilgjengelige i markedet. Mange her har vel også jobb andre steder i denne gruppen, dette vil ihvertfall skape en del bevegelse.
Virker som de samme søker over alt så det kan gi en pekepin på hvor mange som er tilgjengelige i markedet. Mange her har vel også jobb andre steder i denne gruppen, dette vil ihvertfall skape en del bevegelse.
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let's put it in simple terms no one will ever want to buy sas (well I guess of $1 it's possible).
LH was interested but when they found out that sas had over 70 unions to negotiate with they decided to use the open sky policy instead and do their own thing.
the squeeze is on and long term sas cannot sustain its present form or shape - unfortunately.
LH was interested but when they found out that sas had over 70 unions to negotiate with they decided to use the open sky policy instead and do their own thing.
the squeeze is on and long term sas cannot sustain its present form or shape - unfortunately.
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LH was interested but when they found out that sas had over 70 unions to negotiate with they decided to use the open sky policy instead and do their own thing.
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Personlig støtter jeg Diper 100 %. Nå har jeg ikke bakgrunn fra flyselskap der nede selv, men har flydd på Emiratene i 14 år, og kjenner ganske mange som er der, eller har vært der. (Etihad, Emirates, Golf Air...)
Noen sier de har det ok, mens andre helt klart vil hjem ASAP. Personellbehandlingen kan være sånn "ymse". Et at de klareste eksemplene på dette er behandlingen de to danskene fikk som tailstriket en A340 i Australia for Emirates. De fikk nøyaktig 14 dager på å pakke - og komme seg hjem. Null backup fra forening (finnes noe sånt der?)
Jeg tror de fleste ville takke ja til FO-jobb her hjemme i et av de skandinaviske selskapene, fremfor CPT der nede. Dette ble litt OT i forhold til tråden, sorry!
Noen sier de har det ok, mens andre helt klart vil hjem ASAP. Personellbehandlingen kan være sånn "ymse". Et at de klareste eksemplene på dette er behandlingen de to danskene fikk som tailstriket en A340 i Australia for Emirates. De fikk nøyaktig 14 dager på å pakke - og komme seg hjem. Null backup fra forening (finnes noe sånt der?)
Jeg tror de fleste ville takke ja til FO-jobb her hjemme i et av de skandinaviske selskapene, fremfor CPT der nede. Dette ble litt OT i forhold til tråden, sorry!
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strongly doubt you know anything from working in any of the gulf airlines. You can't even spell goof air correctly