Can I get hired without ME rating?
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Can I get hired without ME rating?
I'm currently flying a CRJ7 in US with around 5500hrs TT and 3000hrs multi/jet. I'm looking into flying in sweden and got my JAR FCL Commercial/Instrument ratings as SE. Do I need to get a multi engine rating before sending out applications or is a SE ok?
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I Fly the CRJ 200/700/900 for Skywest Airlines. Great company to work for, but I want to move back home to sweden. My European licences are SE-CPL, IR and written frozen ATPL. So as far as I understand, I have to get a multi engine rating attached to it, in order to apply for jobs?
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Pesse, you can apply for whatever job you want, BUT in order to begin a JAA typerating, including the groundschool portion of it, the JARs require that you hold a valid ME IR. Not necessarily a valid MEP, just the IR part need to be valid
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If you ask me, I think this is one of the most stupid backa$$wards rules regarding pilot licensing. One would think that you follow the same instrument procedures regardless of whether you have one engine or multiple engines.
If you look at the companies who are hiring, they all require that you have a valid ME IR at the start of your typerating. Many also require that you hold a valid typerating
or that you self-fund your own typerating before being hired
. If you ask me, I think this is one of the most stupid backa$$wards rules regarding pilot licensing. One would think that you follow the same instrument procedures regardless of whether you have one engine or multiple engines.
If you look at the companies who are hiring, they all require that you have a valid ME IR at the start of your typerating. Many also require that you hold a valid typerating
or that you self-fund your own typerating before being hired
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Hey Guttn,
I don't know about the IR vs. ME situation. I was just hired by NetJets Europe and I was told that I needed the ME portion current but not the IR since that would be renewed when I got the type-rating.
I might be wrong as for an industry as a whole but that was the situation for NetJets.
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I don't know about the IR vs. ME situation. I was just hired by NetJets Europe and I was told that I needed the ME portion current but not the IR since that would be renewed when I got the type-rating.
I might be wrong as for an industry as a whole but that was the situation for NetJets.
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Catans,
are the Netjets aircraft certified as multi-pilot? If they're not, than your OK to renew your IR when doing the type.
Otherwise, if you're planning on doing a type rating in a multi-pilot aeroplane, JAR-FCL clearly states that you need a valid multi-engine instrument rating. Check out JAR-FCL 1.250 at http://jaa.nl .
are the Netjets aircraft certified as multi-pilot? If they're not, than your OK to renew your IR when doing the type.
Otherwise, if you're planning on doing a type rating in a multi-pilot aeroplane, JAR-FCL clearly states that you need a valid multi-engine instrument rating. Check out JAR-FCL 1.250 at http://jaa.nl .
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Just apply for any job you want
The very sad matter of fact is that JAR-FCL states that you must hold a valid ME/IR in order to initiate training for a typerating on multi pilot aeroplanes (MPA). However this is not a requirement for a type- og classrating on single pilot aeroplanes (SPA).
Find out what it will cost you to get the ME/IR in your JAA licence. You should get away with a simple training program and skilltest. When you know what the damage will be, you can apply for any job you want, and if the conditions in your opinion are good enough, you just spend the money for the ME/IR.
Find out what it will cost you to get the ME/IR in your JAA licence. You should get away with a simple training program and skilltest. When you know what the damage will be, you can apply for any job you want, and if the conditions in your opinion are good enough, you just spend the money for the ME/IR.
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Pesse,
If you are looking for a good JAR school in the states, look at Scanavia i San Diego (www.scanavia.com). I had to renew my ME license before my new job and they were great...and cheaper than doing it in Europe. Plus, evethough they are in the states, they are afiliated with LFV and many of the instructors are Swedes.
They helped me out with my rating requalification and they did a good job doing it, but most of all, they knew the Swedish regulations which is more than all other schools did.
Just a suggestion. I am not afiliated with the school at all, just a happy customer.
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If you are looking for a good JAR school in the states, look at Scanavia i San Diego (www.scanavia.com). I had to renew my ME license before my new job and they were great...and cheaper than doing it in Europe. Plus, evethough they are in the states, they are afiliated with LFV and many of the instructors are Swedes.
They helped me out with my rating requalification and they did a good job doing it, but most of all, they knew the Swedish regulations which is more than all other schools did.
Just a suggestion. I am not afiliated with the school at all, just a happy customer.
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well. would go about in another way...
find a CRJ operator, get hold of their training department, and ask if you can do a validation of your typerating with them and at the same time the ME with them, you should be able to do that, since you have that many hours on type... then travel over to them right after you have done a sim test in the states, and you should be able to do just one training session: the school test and then the check....and this should see you with the type rating on top of the ME... And could very well be cheaper than a normail ME..at best try to find a company that uses sims located in the states.....
But you need to work it with the local CAA and get the ok from them... you will find this easier with some countries...
( i had a friend in a similar situation B727 rated, and he found the british caa most helpful)
pete
find a CRJ operator, get hold of their training department, and ask if you can do a validation of your typerating with them and at the same time the ME with them, you should be able to do that, since you have that many hours on type... then travel over to them right after you have done a sim test in the states, and you should be able to do just one training session: the school test and then the check....and this should see you with the type rating on top of the ME... And could very well be cheaper than a normail ME..at best try to find a company that uses sims located in the states.....
But you need to work it with the local CAA and get the ok from them... you will find this easier with some countries...
( i had a friend in a similar situation B727 rated, and he found the british caa most helpful)
pete
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Thanks for all the tips. I've now heard rumors of a new agency called Eu-OPS taking over JAA this july. Word on the street is that if you have a canadian ATP you can fly EU registerd aircrafts. Any good thoughts on this?
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You can, but only for a 12 month period. It's a temporary thing to facilitate for a validation of your licenses and ratings. (For a validation you will have to sit all the ATPL exams, and after sufficient training you must do a Skill Test.)
