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Putting it into perspective
RYR-738-JOCKEY,
I am not going to get involved in the argument about whether you should or should not pay for your rating......!
But since you can fly a maximum of 900 block hours a year (I guess this even applies to Ryanair), the calculation should look something like this:
900 hrs x 100 euro´s = 90000 euro´s this divided by 12 months makes it 7500,- euro´s pr. month.
Now that is still a very good salary for an F/O, but not in the region of the 11.000,- that you suggested a freshly typerated F/O could make.
If you are after the "TOP BUCK" get a different job.
Best regards, Life Boat
I am not going to get involved in the argument about whether you should or should not pay for your rating......!
But since you can fly a maximum of 900 block hours a year (I guess this even applies to Ryanair), the calculation should look something like this:
900 hrs x 100 euro´s = 90000 euro´s this divided by 12 months makes it 7500,- euro´s pr. month.
Now that is still a very good salary for an F/O, but not in the region of the 11.000,- that you suggested a freshly typerated F/O could make.
If you are after the "TOP BUCK" get a different job.
Best regards, Life Boat
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As far as i know, a brk contract F/O in ryr with more than 1500hrs you earn 85euros per schedule block hr.Then they take 4,50euros for the simulator = 80,50psbh.
Then tax,insurance etc...
500 - 1500 hrs - 75,50euros psbh
>500 hrs = 55,50euros psbh
Then tax,insurance etc...
500 - 1500 hrs - 75,50euros psbh
>500 hrs = 55,50euros psbh
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Ok but there's a reason why it's 20 euros more when you're working all over europe,more expences for sure.So after all i think it's gonna be approx the same money in your pocket on a brk or ryr contract.But back to the topic, i bought my own t/r and got a job right away.It's sad,but i would have done the same again without any doubt.
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Can´t help smiling a bit when I read about this "so much pr. scheduled block hour", "this much for sim." etc in the low cost airlines.
It somehow makes me think of shopping in the supermarket
No offence though!!
And don´t harass us TP pilots. You know, somewhere deep inside that pylon, I´ve been told there is actually a jet engine. Or so the story goes...
It somehow makes me think of shopping in the supermarket
No offence though!!
And don´t harass us TP pilots. You know, somewhere deep inside that pylon, I´ve been told there is actually a jet engine. Or so the story goes...
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Shait jobs
Just a word of advice here: Havining flown professionally now for a while, the 11th year going on to be precise. There are a lot of jobs around now and many of these absolute c.rap. The one I am on right now is substandard in all aspects with no time home, bad rotation and rostering patterns and a very unhealthy work enviroment as well as absolutely disgusting destinations in the worst holes of the 3rd (Should be 4th) world.
I am mostly against paying for your own rating and feel that a company should take the initiative to pay for it. Some operators use the type rating payment or a bond as a guarantee to keep the pilot leaving for greener pastures. My point is that if an employee is treated in a civilized manner and conditions are good, there is no need to be worrried about people leaving.
Additionally as much as I dislike to pay for things, if paying for a rating will get me out of this garbagedump I work now, I will do it without a second thought.
Hopefully we will see airlines around the world realise that there are some really good jobs around and if the a.sshole managemet of the c.rap companies that I mentioned do not get their act together people vote with their feet and go where the sun is shining ( And in some places it is not the CEO's or chiefpilots butt like where I am now)
Hopefully the time that people have to pay to work is going to dissapear and if the pilot shortage that is allready in place will do that before I retire.
I am mostly against paying for your own rating and feel that a company should take the initiative to pay for it. Some operators use the type rating payment or a bond as a guarantee to keep the pilot leaving for greener pastures. My point is that if an employee is treated in a civilized manner and conditions are good, there is no need to be worrried about people leaving.
Additionally as much as I dislike to pay for things, if paying for a rating will get me out of this garbagedump I work now, I will do it without a second thought.
Hopefully we will see airlines around the world realise that there are some really good jobs around and if the a.sshole managemet of the c.rap companies that I mentioned do not get their act together people vote with their feet and go where the sun is shining ( And in some places it is not the CEO's or chiefpilots butt like where I am now)
Hopefully the time that people have to pay to work is going to dissapear and if the pilot shortage that is allready in place will do that before I retire.