Margarita

Is there anything interesting going on in scandinavia except how to get a jobs from Netjets or from UK or Irish airlines? Such threads could be better placed on other forums.

captaink

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Ramsey

We not try wideroe. It is probably the most interesting flying you are gonna find. Not just in scandinavia but anywhere. And t&c`s there and pretty good. I believe they are still hiring

Wannagohome

Could you please define "interesting flying"
Not trying to pick on you. I would really like to know.

Thanks,

captaink

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joerkaaff

From the -100 operations.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0183860/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1036436/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0345011/M/


Good T&C, competitive salary.

"The smallest large airline in the world."

Betaranger

Try Finland, seems to be some action going on over there.

I agree on the T&C's but...

...c'mon Ramsey!!

Br.

Ramsey

Can not find they quote. But read somewhere that their operation is the 2nd most challenging in the world. Can not remember who was number 1. Jumpseat with them for 7 seven days in jan or feb and you will see why. If you could..

Crossunder

Wideroe is really crap at giving potential applicants any info about their operation. But here's what I can say about the company;
WF is one of VERY few companies where you're still required to use your piloting skills and airmanship. In terms of interesting flying, you operate a lot in un-controlled airspace, down in narrow valleys on short, slippery runways during the winter storms. A lot of "action", so to speak. Sure, you could move to Africa or Alaska to do some bush flying, but why the hell would you want to move there? And the T&Cs would suck big-time anyway
In the summertime, the flying in Northern Norway is an absolute delight (if you can handle the early check-in times... ) But you'll also have the opportunity to do some mindless, braindead "airline" flying; just bid your way to the TRF base and into the Q400 cokcpit. Easy-peasy and very relaxed.
The T&Cs are very good, even when compared to the larger airlines. You will not find another turboprop/regional airline with anything resembling WFs T&Cs!!! Excellent staff travel deal on Star Alliance and a myriad of other airlines, nice pension, solid insurance, and let's not forget the 7 on - 7 off roster ...or, if you prefer, you can also bid for another schedule which guarantees every week-end off (often accompanied by days off on thu/fri and/or mon/tue), whichever suits your needs. Now where else can you do that?
Granted, I'd like to fly the big jets just to try it a couple of years, but I'd never want to move abroad and spend my life in an endless jet lag, away from my family, just to fly a heavy aircraft...
New pilot course started last week, and another starting in September.

TuckUnder77

Do you know for sure that there is another course coming up in September? Have the candidates been selected yet?

Crossunder

Yes. But they have probably already selected the candidates, as this is a rather time-consuming process... Give them a call!

TuckUnder77

Gee.

I wish I had the same knowledge of the candidate selection process as you. Anything to share?

Crossunder

Well, I know they keep updating and "refining" the tests, and it's been over 7 years since I took them... But it's essentially the same as the SAS tests, only variations on a theme. Long-/short term memory, scanning, multi-tasking etc etc etc. IQ tests++, I guess. I really don't recall much of it anymore (bad long term memory I suspect). First day is aptitude testing, second day is interviews. In-between, you'll receive a personality questionnaire to complete and return. Basically the same as any other personality test out there. Dunno if it's the 16PF, or some custom design by WFs own psychologist. No sim assessment.
The most important thing about these kinds of tests is probably not the aptitude testing. You've probably been through a few already? Pass one - pass all (well - almost), but you have to have the right personality. You have to fit in. Different airlines look for different personalities. Virgin/Cathay needs long haul pilots, WF needs very-short-haul pilots. Two different jobs requiring two different kinds of pilots. Or it could just be a matter of different cultures. "Yeah, I passed the tests, but the a**hole at the interview gave me a hard time...". Heard it before? Very few of us can manage to fit in everywhere. I sure as hell don't.
Anyway - the guy claiming to "know" how to pass all the tests is usually the one being kicked out, only to return again and again and again, to tell the other candidates how to pass the tests...
I wouldn't mind telling you about the tests, if only I remembered, but you wouldn't necessarily be better off that way. Just apply, show up and do the tests. Either you pass, or you don't. If you don't, you'll probably pass another set of tests for another company, and still work as a pilot the rest of your miserable pilot life
...but I'm sure someone on this forum can tell you a bit more? Something not out of date?

TuckUnder77

Just called and checked checked with an insider/training captain, no more courses coming up this year. I take that information as quite certain, as he works closely with the training manager.

He didn´t know whether there were any tests/interviews coming up this year, though.

Anyone who knows how long time it normally takes from "acceptance" (after interview/test) until one gets employment in WIF?

BestGlide

Other training captains says it will be a new course in September. Who to believe?
They never know until 3-4 weeks before testing. In May they talked about next testing in August. Now nobody knows, but roumers says Oct/Nov.
Nothing is "normally" I had to wait 3 months, others have been waiting 2-3 years. 11 pilot from last autumn testing/interview have been employed so far, and approx 30 was accepted. Please hold in line! And be prepared to be available on very short notice when they decide to start a new course. I started on 14 days notice!

TuckUnder77

Golden opportunity for those new F/Os to be kicked out at an early stage then... that is, if your information is correct.

chandlers dad

Had a good friend who flew for Crossair in CH for a long time. Flying Saab's and Jumbolina's down to Cat 3 in the mountains, with snow, ice and lots of wind would be very exciting.

I used to fly with Exec Air out of Roskilde and when they tried to get me to do a V1 cut in a Learjet, on a runway with a bit of snow AND then cover the windshield for takeoff, I told them that this is too much excitement for me and that we do this type of thing in the simulator.

Other friend flew a lot in PNG, down in the Pacific and he loved it. Problem was if you went down in the jungles, the snakes got you. That would be exciting for a while.

Angola used to be exciting, but then parts of Africa are still that way.

Go to Alaska and be a bush pilot. Do that for a couple of years and you will either stay or long for a more quiet job!

Betaranger

Well said chandlers dad, the list could be a few pages longer.....
I think Ramsey meant 2nd challenging ops in Norway

Br.

Ramsey

Chandles Dad

Not sure what you mean by what you are writing. Does ANY of what you are writing make it as challenging. So IF you crash in the jungle beware of the snakes...YEp that what be my first concern dont think about serviving the crash it self..No beware of the SNAKES

Nardi Riviera

What makes Wideroe Dash-80 flying so "interesting" today, is that the approaches they use were designed for Twotter (could turn on a dime) at airfields built in the 60'ies (terrain)... VERY challenging.

Those who haven't tried our winter storms, better head for somewhere else. Winter in North-Norway is no kindergarten.

Crossunder:
If you/anybody require INFO about Wideroe's operations, you/they are obviously not "the right stuff".

Ramsay:
Your advice about riding jumpseat on WF in Jan/Feb up North is VERY GOOD.

Applicants with a B737 rating MAY not pass, no matter how good they are, because Wideroe have learned that training pilots whose only objective is to use them as a stepping-stone to build time, is pure waste of money.

And - please, all - don't go further OT on this thread.

I myself interpreted Margarita's topic as to "why post job info re airlines OUTSIDE Scandinavia on the Scandinavian Forum"?

Regards, Nardi