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Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11760406)
Why on earth does Poland need to ask Biden for authority to help a neighbour.
ITAR restrictions also apply to components, so if you buy a weapons system from, say, France, that includes components sourced from the USA on their extensive list of controlled technologies (USML), the USA retains control over use of those components. Arms manufacturers have to go to considerable trouble to produce weapons systems that do not include American components so they can avoid dealing with this bureaucracy. If you don't follow the rules set by the USA, it might not be possible to get maintenance supplies, or buy weapons in future. So you follow the rules. Poland is free to help its neighbours with non-USA controlled material. This is the reality of buying weapons systems with American components. It is up to Poland to decide whether the compromises necessary to use American-sourced weapons are worth making. |
https://www.ft.com/content/b1104594-...5-e7a80ab68fad
Chinese sanctions hit US drone maker supplying Ukraine Move by Beijing leaves California company rushing to find new battery providers Skydio, the US’s largest drone maker and a supplier to Ukraine’s military, faces a supply chain crisis after Beijing imposed sanctions on the company, including banning Chinese groups from providing it with critical components. Skydio is rushing to find alternative suppliers after Beijing’s move, which also blocks battery supplies from its sole provider, said people familiar with the situation. The drone-maker has sought help from the Biden administration. Chief executive Adam Bry last week met US deputy secretary of state Kurt Campbell and held discussions with senior officials at the White House. American officials are concerned about China disrupting US supply chains and provision to Ukraine of drones used in intelligence gathering. “This is a clarifying moment for the drone industry,” Bry wrote in a note to customers obtained by the Financial Times. “If there was ever any doubt, this action makes clear that the Chinese government will use supply chains as a weapon to advance their interests over ours. “This is an attempt to eliminate the leading American drone company and deepen the world’s dependence on Chinese drone suppliers,” he added.…. |
Originally Posted by admikar
(Post 11760474)
...... US will shift its focus to ME, regardless of who wins elections next week. .......
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11760564)
https://www.ft.com/content/b1104594-...5-e7a80ab68fad
Chinese sanctions hit US drone maker supplying Ukraine |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11760654)
it isn't (thankfully) a nuclear holocaust.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11760564)
https://www.ft.com/content/b1104594-...5-e7a80ab68fad
American officials are concerned about China disrupting US supply chains and provision to Ukraine of drones used in intelligence gathering. That said: Unless these drone batteries are super- specifically designed it should not be too much of a problem to find another source or go via intermidiaries. I still hope this has been noticed. And surprised this hasn't happened earlier. |
Originally Posted by henra
(Post 11760733)
That said: Unless these drone batteries are super- specifically designed it should not be too much of a problem to find another source or go via intermidiaries. I still hope this has been noticed. And surprised this hasn't happened earlier.
I had a co-worker that liked to tell the story of trying to source batteries for some specific military project he was working on. They figured, even though it was a specific design for the battery, they needed 500,000, so it would be easy to source. None of the battery manufactures were interested - when they said "but we need 500 thousand of those!", the battery types would come back with 'not worth our trouble - come back when you need 500 million...* |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11760564)
https://www.ft.com/content/b1104594-...5-e7a80ab68fad
Chinese sanctions hit US drone maker supplying Ukraine Move by Beijing leaves California company rushing to find new battery providers Skydio, the US’s largest drone maker and a supplier to Ukraine’s military, faces a supply chain crisis after Beijing imposed sanctions on the company, including banning Chinese groups from providing it with critical components. Skydio is rushing to find alternative suppliers after Beijing’s move, which also blocks battery supplies from its sole provider, said people familiar with the situation. The drone-maker has sought help from the Biden administration. Chief executive Adam Bry last week met US deputy secretary of state Kurt Campbell and held discussions with senior officials at the White House. American officials are concerned about China disrupting US supply chains and provision to Ukraine of drones used in intelligence gathering. “This is a clarifying moment for the drone industry,” Bry wrote in a note to customers obtained by the Financial Times. “If there was ever any doubt, this action makes clear that the Chinese government will use supply chains as a weapon to advance their interests over ours. “This is an attempt to eliminate the leading American drone company and deepen the world’s dependence on Chinese drone suppliers,” he added.…. |
Wow, a Korean soldier talks about finding the truth the hard way, as Russia herded them to their slaughter and how Putin has betrayed Kim .
He talks a lot of sense. |
That’ll teach Russia to use prisoners as fodder.
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Moving some of Ukraines monuments ahead of the onslaught.
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Lol te Korean Russian phrase book. Full of useful words and sayings that will be imperative on the front line.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8ebd9b3be.jpeg |
Originally Posted by tdracer
(Post 11760851)
It's that super-specific part that tends to be the problem.
I had a co-worker that liked to tell the story of trying to source batteries for some specific military project he was working on. They figured, even though it was a specific design for the battery, they needed 500,000, so it would be easy to source. None of the battery manufactures were interested - when they said "but we need 500 thousand of those!", the battery types would come back with 'not worth our trouble - come back when you need 500 million...* Similarly, de-ITARize non-US weapons might very soon be the next strategic issue for European defense industry. |
"Similarly, de-ITARize non-US weapons might very soon be the next strategic issue for European defense industry."
For any not completely trivial electronic that will be impossible. At least the design will come for most advance parts from US companies. |
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Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11760406)
Why on earth does Poland need to ask Biden for authority to help a neighbour.
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⚡️🇺🇦Ukraine will officially appeal to 🇰🇷South Korea with a request for military assistance. It is about artillery, air defense systems and more, - Volodymyr Zelenskyi.
The Ukrainian government has named three North Korean generals accompanying at least 500 North Korean officers sent to Russia - Reuters One of them, Colonel General Kim Yong Bok, is a senior general with command of special forces troops, including the XI Corps, also known as the Storm Corps, which the South Korean intelligence service said has been dispatched to Russia. Also, in remarks to the UN Security Council, Ukraine's delegation stated that plans call for the North Korean troops to be formed into at least five formations of 2,000-3,000 soldiers each, and integrated into Russian units to conceal their presence. Source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2024-10-31/ |
Originally Posted by EDLB
(Post 11760903)
"Similarly, de-ITARize non-US weapons might very soon be the next strategic issue for European defense industry."
For any not completely trivial electronic that will be impossible. At least the design will come for most advance parts from US companies. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11761027)
Storm Shadow and SCALP were designed from the start to have no US components in them and haven’t.
What is interesting is that the supposedly Itar free SCALP and storm shadow nonetheless seen to have a de facto US block in usage beyond Ukraine borders. This suggests that something in the mission planning or mission operation tool chain is under US control for both the UK and the French supply. Or that there are other less technical and more political issues in play. But no indication as to what. |
This suggests that something in the mission planning or mission operation tool chain is under US control for both the UK and the French supply. |
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