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Originally Posted by ACW342
(Post 11714070)
it's not a war lust - it's just a statement of fact , exactly as I said to my wife, the part of the video was that pixelated was so as NOT to show the bodies
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 11714258)
Ukraine taking back (part of) the Kinburn Spit the last couple of days?
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I wonder if the incursion into Kursk is simply a means of distracting the Russians and forcing them to spread themselves across a wider front.
It would not surprise me if UKR did what tactical and strategic damage they could to to the area then pulled out fairly rapidly (before the Russians can effectively respond) leaving the Russkies to wonder where they were going to hit next and forcing them to spread assets to cover other border areas. It's certainly caught them off guard and caused serious red faces in the Kremlin. |
Originally Posted by Winemaker
(Post 11714334)
Denys says the assault failed and the Ukrainians had to return to the mainland.
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Originally Posted by OvertHawk
(Post 11714341)
I wonder if the incursion into Kursk is simply a means of distracting the Russians and forcing them to spread themselves across a wider front.
It would not surprise me if UKR did what tactical and strategic damage they could to to the area then pulled out fairly rapidly (before the Russians can effectively respond) leaving the Russkies to wonder where they were going to hit next and forcing them to spread assets to cover other border areas. It's certainly caught them off guard and caused serious red faces in the Kremlin. |
Originally Posted by OvertHawk
(Post 11714341)
I wonder if the incursion into Kursk is simply a means of distracting the Russians and forcing them to spread themselves across a wider front.
It would not surprise me if UKR did what tactical and strategic damage they could to to the area then pulled out fairly rapidly (before the Russians can effectively respond) leaving the Russkies to wonder where they were going to hit next and forcing them to spread assets to cover other border areas. It's certainly caught them off guard and caused serious red faces in the Kremlin. If they are losing 1100 troops a day and it takes 2 weeks to “train” and equip replacements, then the maths do not add up. |
Despite China's professed support for Russia, Russian drone-makers complain that Chinese companies are providing them with poor-quality, defective, overpriced components that are delivered late or not at all. They attribute it to China covertly seeking to weaken Russia…..
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Russian situation in Kursk still deteriorating…
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Violent explosions 💥💥💥were reported in Kursk Airport,,, the airport contains
🇷🇺 14 fighter aviation regiment . & near the airport there is 🇷🇺 332nd Helicopter regiment. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....757922bc0.jpeg |
🔥 Right now, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are breaking through the border in several more settlements, both Russian and Ukrainian channels are reporting.
Another direction in the Kursk region and in the Belgorod region. Ukrainian militant writes that our soldiers have broken through the line of defense and are moving forward. |
Russian milblogger says Ukrainians broke through south of Sudzha, advancing "dozens of kilometers"
Referring to "verified comrades," Russian Telegram channel Dva Mayora wrote: "Belovsky District, Kursk Oblast, reported by our comrades from the region. The breakthrough of several dozens of kilometers, going wide front. Around the village of Belaya, everything is occupied by the enemy. A hospital was shot by tanks in the area. Oboyan (63 km from the border, - Ed.) hears the fighting." Currently, the report is unconfirmed. The Ukrainian military don't report anything since the beginning of the incursion into Kursk Oblast due to the strict operational security. Maps: TG/Dva Mayora, DeepStateMap, Google. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....919b176352.png |
Very interesting developments indeed. Is it possible a Russian rout will develop? Yeah, I know, wistful thinking. I quote Wikipedia:
Off they went, one and all; off down the highway, over across fields towards the woods, anywhere, everywhere, to escape. The further they ran, the more frightened they grew. To enable them better to run, they threw away their blankets, knapsacks, canteens and finally muskets, cartridge-boxes and everything else. [...] We called to them, tried to tell them there was no danger, called them to stop, implored them to stand. We called them cowards, denounced them in the most offensive terms, put out our heavy revolvers and threatened to shoot them, but all in vain; a cruel, crazy, mad, hopeless panic possessed them, and communicated to everybody about in the front and rear. — US Rep. Albert G. Riddle (R-Ohio), observing the rout of the Army of Northeastern Virginia after the First Battle of Bull Run (July 21, 1861) Historically, lightly-equipped soldiers such as light cavalry, auxiliaries, partisans or militia were important when pursuing a fast-moving, defeated enemy force and could often keep up the pursuit into the following day, causing the routed army heavy casualties or total dissolution. The slower moving heavy forces could then either seize objectives or pursue at leisure. However, with the advent of armoured warfare and blitzkrieg style operations, an enemy army could be kept more or less in a routed or disorganized state for days or weeks on end. In modern times, a routed formation will often cause a complete breakdown in the entire front, enabling the organized foe to attain a quick and decisive victory in the campaign. In the blitzkrieg warfare that characterized World War II, the French Army was decisively defeated in the Battle of Sedan (1940) opening a 20-kilometre (12 mi) gap in Allied lines into which Heinz Guderian poured his mechanized forces. German tanks kept the rout going, and the Allies were unable to stabilize the situation before the Wehrmacht occupied Paris and forced the capitulation of the French government. |
Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation
(Post 11714260)
The before / after images match Lipetsk in Google & Bing maps.
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Originally Posted by FUMR
(Post 11714027)
Sadly, I have got to the stage where I no longer care about dead Russian soldiers, no matter what their age. How many would have grown up to be no better than their elders?!
The action by Ukraine this last week is stunning in what it exposes of Russias incompetence, as did Prigozins big day out. As much as Russia fails to be able to field sufficient mass at a point to have a major breakout, and lacks even more the ability to hold any territory without wiping the subjugated population from the area, Ukraine also lacks the forces to hold the territory that it has gained through audacity and the incompetence of the Kremlin. Apparently the only location that has lots of excess mass is that area between the Russian's leaders ears. |
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Very interesting development indeed.
One has to wonder what part of the front Ukraine had to move those troops out of ? It is not that they have excess manpower. As much as this daring blitzkrieg is certainly making a bold statement I also wonder about the logistic lines to support it longer term. Interesting times. |
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