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[email protected] 28th June 2023 14:46

ORAC - is that to make it more difficult to tell when they have been sunk?:E

They'll scare fewer fish on their way to the seabed and blend in better when they get there.

Rescue3 28th June 2023 17:52


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11457983)
After taking the "wait and see" approach for 16 months, China made the decision to support Russia's downfall. China now supports Ukraine's liberation of Crimea and all other territories occupied by Russia.…

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...nes-91-borders

‘Don’t see why not’: China envoy on backing Ukraine’s ’91 borders

Economic sanctions on China - now, hit it where it hurts them.....supporters and suppliers of a terrorist state....... and a lot of what they manufacture is cheap tat anyway....Sanctions now

Rescue3 28th June 2023 18:05


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11458296)
That’s only about 100km from the border and 250km from Kyiv….



The Community of Railway Workers of Belarus claimed today that Russian nuclear weapons would be delivered to Prudok in Vitebsk Oblast. The village hosts the 2631st Missile and Air Ammunition Storage Base.

If Belarus want to join the party, as they already have by hosting massed invading RU forces on their land then let's go - all is fair in love & war and may be the puppet farmer boy will see that he's not the statesman that he thinks he is.
I'm an advocate of if 1 missile comes over the border, UKR should retaliate with at least 2 back. No more pussyfooting around about "we only protect our borders", they invaded hit them back - and hard...

ORAC 28th June 2023 18:19

The Deputy Prime Minister of Poland, Jarosław Kaczyński has announced as a result of recent Intelligence indicating that up to 8,000 personnel of the Wagner PMC group will soon be transferred to the territory of Belarus, the Polish military will soon deploy a number of combat units towards the regions along the Belarusian border while also beginning the construction of additional defensive fortifications in those regions.

Lordflasheart 28th June 2023 18:50

How many Prudoks ?
 
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Orac - Your post 2212


The satellite pic for the Prudok nuke store in your linky seems to be up the top end of Belarus - about 55.30 N and 30 E. Some 500k N. of Kiev. Not that it makes any difference to a Scud or someone with malicious Eisenbahn intent . However, it's rather closer to the Latvy and USSR Mother Rus border and confusingly, there are several more Prudoks available to a careless targetting specialist.

Keep up the good intel work please. Slava Ukraini ! ...LFH
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GlobalNav 28th June 2023 20:48


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 11458181)
GlobalNav - better to say you don't trust the Chinese rather than 'communists' since it would be difficult to classify 21st century China as a true communist state

Well, thank you, but I did mean Communists because there never were “true” communists, not that I’d miss them. USSR, Albania, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Korea, Cuba, East Germany, Hungary, Romania etc all dictatorships which mistreated their own people and lied to everyone. Granted, some had policies for awhile that were good for the people, but every one robbed them of their Liberty, dignity, and so forth, and truth, loyalty were superficial ideals. All this in spite of what our college professors taught us.

GlobalNav 28th June 2023 20:56


Originally Posted by Rescue3 (Post 11458488)
If Belarus want to join the party, as they already have by hosting massed invading RU forces on their land then let's go - all is fair in love & war and may be the puppet farmer boy will see that he's not the statesman that he thinks he is.
I'm an advocate of if 1 missile comes over the border, UKR should retaliate with at least 2 back. No more pussyfooting around about "we only protect our borders", they invaded hit them back - and hard...

UKR cannot afford the luxury of pure revenge and sending messages. They barely have enough military resources to achieve their primary objective of ridding Ukraine of Russian invaders. Fortunately, it seems, the UKR making their best and innovative means to use the resources they have.

ORAC 28th June 2023 20:56

The Moscow Times confirms the arrest of General Surovikin

“The management said that there would be news about him today. In the context of Prigozhin. Apparently he [Surovikin] chose the side [of Prigozhin during the rebellion] and they grabbed him by the balls,”

jeallen01 28th June 2023 21:04

Well, at the rate they've been going since Feb '22, I'm guessing that the highest "sort of" effective ranks left in the RF Army will soon be around the lower NCO level (if that high!) with a hu.........ge gap to "he who must be obeyed" (but isn't because most of those at all levels below can't even understand what he seems to "want"!:oh:)

If that eventually proves to be case, then the whole house of cards might then finally collapse (hopefully!).

ORAC 28th June 2023 21:08

​​​​​​​Thread on the mess domestic Russian drone development is currently experiencing, including multiple varieties of bureaucratic nightmares

Officials demanding extra paperwork, officials unable to pay developers, local officials changing contracts, and more.

ORAC 28th June 2023 21:34

👍👍👍

Among Americans, support for providing weapons to Ukraine has increased sharply from 46% in May to 65% now, Reuters writes. 81% of Democrats, 56% of Republicans and 57% of independents support the transfer of military aid.

NutLoose 29th June 2023 01:19


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11458573)
Thread on the mess domestic Russian drone development is currently experiencing, including multiple varieties of bureaucratic nightmares

Officials demanding extra paperwork, officials unable to pay developers, local officials changing contracts, and more.

It sounds like they could all get a job at the MOD in London after the war is over.

NutLoose 29th June 2023 02:08

A mastiff undergoing repairs, it looks like it took a beating but did it’s job.

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NutLoose 29th June 2023 02:14

Lol, very well done.

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NutLoose 29th June 2023 02:24

Poland believes 8000 Wagner will move to Belarus.




ORAC 29th June 2023 06:26

​​​​​​​MUTINY: Russian army units are being annihilated in Ukraine. No munitions, food, or water. Not paid a single time over the entire deployment which started 3 months ago. Out of the 150-person company, only 16-17 survived. They refuse to follow orders to go back to frontline.

ORAC 29th June 2023 07:07

Lithuanian MOD:

​​​​​​​In response to Ukraine's urgent request for assistance in strengthening air defence, we are purchasing two NASAMS medium-range air defence missile launchers for the Ukrainian army. We will also arrange the delivery, which is expected to take place within next three months.

NutLoose 29th June 2023 07:10

Polands first batch of M1 tanks arrive.

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ORAC 29th June 2023 07:14

​​​​​​​Two 🇺🇦JDAM/GLSDB guided bombs hit russian command & control center in russian-occupied Donetsk🎯🎯

48.061056, 37.773117

NutLoose 29th June 2023 11:12

A poll of Russians re using nukes. At least sanity remains in the majority, do they not realise the fallout they may get from it and also the possibility of an all out retalitory strike, I notice when ever the blowhard propagandists mention it, the fail to tell the punters at home a strike will not knock out a countries ability to return the favour.



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