P-8 ‘trilateral algorithm’ to hit field this year, as AUKUS Pillar II eyes quantum clocks, AI projects
“The most important things that we do in Pillar II of AUKUS haven't been invented yet,” Michael Horowitz, whose office serves as the Pentagon's day-to-day lead on AUKUS issues, told Breaking Defense in an exclusive interview.

Before the end of the year, the AUKUS nations will field a new “trilateral algorithm” allowing them to share information from P-8 sonobuoys between each other, the first piece of tangible AUKUS Pillar II technology to hit the field.

It might seem small, but that capability is exactly the kind of synergizing, forward-moving tech that the trilateral agreement between the United States, Untied Kingdom and Australia is after, according to Michael Horowitz, the Pentagon’s Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Force Development and Emerging Capabilities.

Horowitz’s office quietly began managing the day-to-day of the Pentagon’s AUKUS efforts last October, a decision he told Breaking Defense was “deliberate” to ensure that the AUKUS effort is “institutionalized” within DoD.

She was born in Malaysia...................................... :ugh:

https://archive.ph/2024.07.09-182914...-astute-class/

Australian submariners to serve on UK’s Astute-class nuclear vessels for first time

Three engineers pass nuclear operator course as part of the Aukus partnership

Nice to see, and if the names are an indication, one of them is a woman.

Surnames apparently withheld for security reasons. Is that a UK thing or an Australian decision? But in the meantime, photos of graduation are in the media. In these times, it isn't that hard to work out surname(s). As these officers advance in their careers, will they only be referred to by their first name? "...Chief of Navy Isabella welcomed the latest graduates..."

I seem to remember UK doing same with military pilots names in press as only first name, but my memory of this is hazy!

Sheffield Forgemasters planning to build a 30,000 m2 facility to support AUKUS submarine component production.

If approved, it will be one of the world’s most advanced large machining facilities and be operational by the end of 2028.

https://www.sheffieldforgemasters.co...ning-facility/

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Blimey, every time I see there's a new post on this thread I shudder. With a Labour government here, a Labor government in Australia and uncertainty in the US, I wonder if I'm going to read the project is cancelled. Here's hoping not.

Latest AUKUS meeting

it was a Labour Government that built the UK atom bomb - and they were the people who secretly developed the Chevaline warheads for the Polaris system in the '70's

It was the Hawke labor gov, that started the Collins class.

May 1983: The newly elected Labor government puts out the first tenders soliciting proposals for the Collins-class submarine.

3 June 1987: A $5bn contract is signed to build six Collins-class submarines. Each submarine is to be built in six sections with Australian companies contributing 60% of the work.

29 June 1987: The Australian Submarine Corporation site in Osborne, Adelaide is selected as the facility to build the new submarines. The site is opened by Australia’s then prime minister Bob Hawke on November 1989.

February 1990: Work on HMAS Collins begins. Named after V-Adm Sir John Collins, the Collins class is a Type 471 diesel-electric submarine designed by Swedish shipbuilders Kockums.

In all countries politicians of either stripe will cancel programmes if it suits them - Think Sandys and Cameron in the UK - both Tories, and the TSR2/F-111 imbroglio - that was Labour.

AUKUS makes eminent sense for everyone (well... except President Xi I'd guess) - if they can make a decent fist of keeping costs under control it should work

Speaking on the US bit of that, we probably need a dedicated cost control team employed given how badly we seem to handle that of late. :mad:

🇦🇺🇬🇧🇺🇸have formally signed a Naval Nuclear Propulsion agreement that allows the sharing of highly sensitive submarine nuclear reactor and propulsion technology.

This will allow the UK and US to transfer material and equipment to Australia required for the safe and secure construction, operation and sustainment of SSNs.

​​​​​​​https://www.gov.uk/government/news/a...-8-august-2024

The US has relaxed the ITAR rules for the UK & Australia which will facilitate the purchase of submarine components (& other weapons) under AUKUS - this is a major step in the legal process that is required before any submarines are transferred or built.

https://breakingdefense.com/2024/08/us-to-approve-streamlined-itar-for-australia-in-order-to-speed-aukus-arms-exports/


https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon...g-defense-kit/


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-...m_content=link

I just found this one. Maybe RAN will have their subs by 2040...

The AUKUS submarine deal has been exposed as a monumental folly – is it time to abandon ship? (theconversation.com)

No, he doesn't have an ax to grind.
Nope. :rolleyes:

Keating or Fowler?

Where is the error in what the article at previous link contains? I haven't read the book.

I can also only see the explanation as "short-term political advantage" on one side and "fear of being wedged" on the other.

Years back, Dutton as Defence Minister, in a TV interview conceded the decision was only known by a hand full of people before it was disclosed.

How long did the coalition give the ALP to take a position on the plan before the announcement? What restrictions were placed on the senior ALP leadership in discussing what was proposed within their party? So much for the bipartisanship in Defence decision making that Linda Reynolds was at one point striving to achieve.

The rubbish that is going to be written about the planned Virginia in AU-2032. The planned SSN-AUKUS UK-late 2030's, AU-early 2040's. Will keep us all entertained for years to come.

https://navalinstitute.com.au/aukus-...y-at-a-glance/
AUKUS nuclear-powered submarine pathway at a glance

Labor leadership found out on the 15th AUG, on the 16th the labor Caucus was told. 15th of Sept it was officially announced to the public