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Australia:
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal...0240526-p5jgom Questions surface over fast-tracked $10b warships |
Answer given and clickbait continues.
Asked what changes would be allowed, a Defence Department spokesman said: “The General Purpose Frigate program is now in an evaluation process and Defence will not comment while the process is being conducted to protect commercial, procurement and probity processes.” |
so much whinning about how fast they are doing, so much whinning about how slow hunter and most other procurements are
The TLDR what the govt wants in order of importanceThey announced that its got to be in build by 2026 for 2029 delivery transfer of design for onshore build effective sustainment and maintainence systems in AUS compliance with regulatory,legislative and class regulation interoperabolity with AUS and allied systems So AUS wants a complete or nearly complete design that the builder can start building next year with a delivery no later than 2029, Meko A210 is a design they have been working on for 18+ months so should be completed, Mogami is complete, **** but complete, Daegu (know nothing about the design) is, tasman / alpha 3000 is concept as is the baby constellation |
The odd thing is they are not including Arrow 140, which would seem an excellent option. Possibly they don't think it can be built in timeframe.
However RAN procurement has a checkered history, to say the least. That combined with Marles means probably end up a shambles. Little or no prospect of the 7 - 11 hulls eventuating on past performance. |
Originally Posted by Bug
(Post 11665329)
The odd thing is they are not including Arrow 140, which would seem an excellent option. Possibly they don't think it can be built in timeframe.
However RAN procurement has a checkered history, to say the least. . That combined with Marles means probably end up a shambles |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11665393)
Allegedly 5 companies, considering Gibbs and Cox with the baby constellation are only design / engineering and zero ship building maybe BAE with arrowhead was the 5th and not gibbs and coxt
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“Stand alone contract for 12 main shaft seals for VIRGINIA class SSNs to be 100% manufactured by Wartsila in Havant, Hampshire, UK, with procurement via Defense Maritime Solutions, Inc. Genuine question: have these always come from the UK plant, or is it the first time?”
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Australian government just axed substantial parts of the LOTE (life extension) efforts for Collins submarines, while going ahead with the overall program. A few thoughts on the matter. Official statement here. 1/9
https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/...type-extension https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...161918973.html |
It looks like there has been a change of mind. It isn't going to be used on AUKUS either. "The SSN AUKUS nuclear-powered conventionally armed submarines will likewise not be fitted with this particular design. "
It seems on advice, that adding Tomahawk cruise missile capability to the Collins class submarines is not viable and does not represent value for money. It currently has and looks like will keep, the Harpoon missile. |
Adding Tomahawk capability to the Collins class was only going to be viable if you managed to persuade Raytheon to reopen the TTL Tomahawk production line and they’ve clearly failed to do that.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11668704)
“Stand alone contract for 12 main shaft seals for VIRGINIA class SSNs to be 100% manufactured by Wartsila in Havant, Hampshire, UK, with procurement via Defense Maritime Solutions, Inc. Genuine question: have these always come from the UK plant, or is it the first time?”
South Australia makes play to enter US nuclear submarine supply chain ahead of AUKUS build - ABC News The SA government has struck a deal with shipbuilder Huntington Ingalls Industries to allow SA companies to enter supply chains for US nuclear-powered naval submarines. |
@BAES_Maritime has submitted a planning application for the future development of Barrow site to support increasing submarine production.
Potentially a very large building at site of former gas and fuel storage facility on Barrow Island (centre of image). https://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/24383...t-barrow-site/ https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....51a87af99.jpeg |
I share your disappointment. If we get into a shooting war again, running out of Tomahawks is bound to happen early in the campaign... :mad:
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This old lag is astonished re security clearance these days. Good to see but (my USN training story 1972-73 is too long for here).
First Royal Australian Navy Enlisted Sailors Begin Training at U.S. Submarine School 14 Jun 2024 Seapower Staff https://seapowermagazine.org/first-r...marine-school/ "GROTON, Conn.–The U.S. Naval Submarine School in Groton welcomed its first cadre of nine enlisted sailors and the second cadre of three officers from the Royal Australian Navy on June 3rd and 10th respectively. These 12 Australians will train alongside their American counterparts to operate conventionally armed, nuclear-powered attack submarines (SSNs). The enrollment of Royal Australian Navy sailors at the Submarine School marks a significant step in the AUKUS (Australia, United Kingdom, United States) Pillar 1 Optimal Pathway, aimed at helping Australia acquire a conventionally armed, nuclear-powered submarine fleet. “We’re excited to welcome these sailors and officers to Groton and build on the momentum of the first cohort of Australian officers to graduate from Submarine Officer Basic Course (SOBC) in April,” said Capt. Matthew Fanning, commanding officer, Naval Submarine School.... Upon graduation from pipeline schools, the Royal Australian Navy officers and sailors will be assigned to U.S. SSNs for their first sea tour to further their knowledge and training.... ... Chief of the Royal Australian Navy, Vice Adm. Mark Hammond [said]. “Three Australian officers have already completed 14 months of intensive shore-based training, including Nuclear-Power School, nuclear propulsion training, and the Submarine Officer Basic Course before being assigned to U.S. Virginia class submarines.... The number of Royal Australian Navy personnel training across the U.S. will increase to over 100 people in the next 12 months...." |
I see that Chinese premier Li Qiang is paying a visit to Australia. First port of call, Adelaide. Hopefully this will be completely unrelated to AUKUS, or am I being unduly suspicious?
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Originally Posted by bugged on the right
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I see that Chinese premier Li Qiang is paying a visit to Australia. First port of call, Adelaide. Hopefully this will be completely unrelated to AUKUS, or am I being unduly suspicious?
New pair of giant pandas for Adelaide Zoo, Wang Wang and Fu Ni to return to China by end of year 16 Jun 2024 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-...ment/103984176 I"n short: Adelaide Zoo is set to receive a new pair of giant pandas. The zoo's current duo, Wang Wang & Fu Ni, will return to China after spending 15 years at Adelaide Zoo. The announcement was made by Chinese Premier Li Qiang at the zoo this morning." |
The intricacies of moving Pandas between zoos must be the reason behind the massive increase in staff at the Chinese consulate in Adelaide over the last few years.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aval-base.html |
Originally Posted by bugged on the right
(Post 11677512)
I see that Chinese premier Li Qiang is paying a visit to Australia. First port of call, Adelaide. Hopefully this will be completely unrelated to AUKUS, or am I being unduly suspicious?
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Originally Posted by Going Boeing
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The intricacies of moving Pandas between zoos must be the reason behind the massive increase in staff at the Chinese consulate in Adelaide over the last few years.
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