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Latest report in The Guardian:-
Two missiles hit US warship intending to pass through strait of Hormuz - report Iran’s Fars news agency is reporting that a US warship intending to pass through the strait of Hormuz was turned back after ignoring a warning from Iran’s navy, citing “news sources in the south” The report, which we have not yet been able to independently verify, said that two missiles hit a US navy frigate sailing through the waterway in what Iran deemed a violation of “traffic and shipping security” near Jask island. |
Originally Posted by Lyneham Lad
(Post 12080915)
Latest report in The Guardian:-
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CENTCOM denied Missiles. Video released by Iran looks more like a mine.
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The line is increasing. Over the last few days there have been around 25 to 30 ships being anchored stern to bow on that exact same line from Khasab to Ramchah. As soon as they get to their spot in the line, the AIS is being turned off, it takes exactly 24 hours for the AIS signal to fade off the charts.
Ships entering from the Gulf of Oman side of the Strait of Hormuz will not see the line of Iranian ships until they turn into the Persian Gulf at the top of the Khasab Peninsular, they will not show up on radar or AIS systems. The Iranians perfected this tactic during the Iran vs Iraq war, they used an identical means to block the route from the Persian Gulf to Umm Qasr and Khor-al-Zubair ports with cargo ships lined up across from Shatt-al-Arab to Grand Faw / Bubyan Island. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d91d350b03.png Someone seriously needs to stop Trump broadcasting what is being done via his social media, he is potentially endangering his own Naval personnel and the lives of those on the civilian ships. No matter how much the US denies that their ships are attacked, it stands to reason that they have to say don't they? They cannot admit openly that they have been attacked due to Trumps constant announcements that Iran has no Navy, no bombs etc. They cannot control what they cannot see til it is too late to react, USS Cole proved that. |
A surge in Somali piracy is fueling fears of a Red Sea "security vacuum" across the region as analysts warn of a revived maritime crime playbook, now linked to Iran-backed Houthis. The warning follows a May 2 report from Yemen’s coast guard that armed men hijacked an oil tanker off Shabwa and steered it toward the Gulf of Aden, and the vessel has since been located with recovery efforts underway, Reuters reported. "Somali and Houthi-linked groups are teaming up — using skiffs and new tech to strike ships with coordination not seen in a decade — while Saudi crude rerouted from the Strait of Hormuz has created a ‘target-rich environment for them,’" he added. For ATNotts: not going to bet against your assessment. a move designed to goad the IRGC to attack the US escorts and give him an opportunity to re-enter a hot war without getting congressional approval. |
I suspect there are various countries around the world that want nothing to do with the Straits of Hormuz situation who will nonetheless find they are able to provide naval assets, and, more importantly, have the willingness, to help tackle the issue of Somali piracy.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 12080994)
For Bonnie Lass: do merchant ships no longer have radar?
The average length of the cargo ships in the line is 65m, ample space to hide skiffs in its shadow. Once AIS is turned off the ship will become invisible, hence why it is a legal obligation to leave the system switched on even at anchor. These Iranian cargo ships are going dark as soon as they have anchored, the AIS signals are showing til 24 hours pass, after that unless you actually look for them via AIS (if you know their IMO identification or name) you will be hard pressed to see them and the skiffs rarely if ever have AIS transponders. At the same time that Iran has been building the line of ships on the Khasab-Ramchah line, the Houthi have increased their harrassment and attempted hijacking at Bab-el-Mandab. Given that the Houthi are aligned with Iran, it is more than coincidental that both major shipping route choke points are experiencing raised activity levels. All of the above is being confirmed by UKMTO. |
Originally Posted by BillS
(Post 12080957)
CENTCOM denied Missiles. Video released by Iran looks more like a mine.
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A site someone sent me.
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/ |
Originally Posted by Biggus
(Post 12080980)
I suspect there are various countries around the world that want nothing to do with the Straits of Hormuz situation who will nonetheless find they are able to provide naval assets, and, more importantly, have the willingness, to help tackle the issue of Somali piracy.
We'll see. Hopefully my pessimism is ill founded. |
Given that Iran seems to be lobbing missiles at UAE again and is claiming to have fired ‘warning shots’ at a US destroyer etc. is it time to take the gloves off again ?
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 12081055)
There have been anti-Somali-pirate flotillas in the past, many of them multinational, but the addition of the Houthi loonies to the problem may make some of the ones with weaker spines unwilling to participate.
We'll see. Hopefully my pessimism is ill founded. As much fun as pushing back on the drone drivers is, that would involve de-populating Yemen, and Somalia, which would raise eyebrows. Short of that, then convoys and far more anti drone capability is necessary, and that is all well and good until Yemen plonks some mines in the sea ways on the east channel at least. As far as coalitions are concerned, the greatest impediment to such action comes from the strategic time frame that now exists with the USA, which currently alters about 4-5 times a day, and sometime more frequently, in the same sentence. An example of why this is a problem is the latching that is occurring at present of some perceived slight by a single leader that then results in a response in retribution that can be argued as being a self harm event... such as a beef on Germany being disinclined in joining a fight in Iran that they were not consulted in before the action, and that response resulting in the withdrawal of US troops from Germany with a 5,000 man initial drawdown, and comments that they will be much greater. It is a strange season where an alliance with the US may very well then include a relationship with Putin's Russia, which is still largely distrusted and reviled as an regime that has been conducting war crimes for an extended period, arguably since 1993. When the friend of your friend is a criminal, there is a bit of reserve; alliances of that sort led to WW-1. |
Epic Goat 2
Looks like Part Deux has got off to zippy start with yet again Iran taking it to UAE.
It is difficult to believe there is actually a plan involved in this latest US effort, unless of course torching the Middle East oil industry is the plan. Listened to a US Gov guy on CNBC today waxing lyrical about how US and Venezuela could replace lost oil from Gulf. Ho hum. |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 12081009)
Link to video?
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cc6bd5f6c.jpeg |
Looks dubious to me - any of our resident navy experts care to weigh in on the type?
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What is being reported is that the US have sunk several small boats.
On Fox US sinks 6 Iranian small boats as violence flares amid ceasefireU.S. Forces sank six Iranian small boats near the Strait of Hormuz amid President Donald Trump's "Project Freedom" on Monday.U.S. Central Command announced the engagement in a press call with reporters, saying Iran's military capability has been "dramatically degraded." CENTCOM Commander Adm. Brad Cooper said on the call that Iran historically has deployed "between 20 and 40 small boats" when harassing vessels in the strait. "Today, we saw just six, and eliminated them quickly," Cooper said. "We have an enormous amount of capability and firepower concentrated in and around the Strait, including 864 Apache and MH 60 Seahawk helicopters used just this morning to eliminate six Iranian small boats threatening commercial shipping," he added. Posted by Anders Hagstrom |
BillS
Looks like an Oliver Hazard Perry class, which the USN no longer use, and images look like a sinkex in 2016 (USS Thach?)? |
USS Samuel B Roberts FFG-58 - Perry Class -
Damaged by Iranian mine 1988 - with no loss of life. Repaired and decommissioned about 2015. |
BREAKING: Iranian drones have struck the Fujairah Oil Industry Zone in the UAE. Major fire now burning on site. Fujairah is not a random target. It's the UAE's primary oil export terminal on the Gulf of Oman, the only major UAE port that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz entirely. It handles millions of barrels of oil that the world has been rerouting specifically to avoid the closed strait. Iran just hit the bypass route. BREAKING: UAE air defenses are responding to a second missile threat tonight. Iran already fired 4 loitering munitions at the UAE earlier today. 3 intercepted, one into the sea. Now another wave. The firing at a cargo vessel north of Dubai probably was the trigger. UKMTO alert: cargo vessel on fire 36 nautical miles north of Dubai. Engine room fire, cause unknown. 36 miles north of Dubai is the southern approach to the Strait of Hormuz. The same waters where Iran fired on vessels this morning. UAE intercepted four drones tonight, and Project Freedom launched today. Cause unknown. Timing noted. Developing. |
USN, obliquely, confirming the Strait has been mined.......
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5c634e56d7.png |
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