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Guess who did the greatest favor for Trump in this escapade:

Iran! By striking civilian targets in the Gulf turning neighborly buddies into enemies now calling on Trump to put US boots on the ground to "finish“ the job:}

Hey, there's plenty US military targets and apologies for rounds falling short would find a degree of acceptance.

While Trump is talking up departing the scene, I suspect that will be delayed until after SF and marines go in guns blazing Iran will be shooting back. There will be losses on both sides.

Bibi will continue mowing the lawn in ever more locations. He has the remote for Trump.

Any ident on the t/prop aircraft in pic1.of #4581...?

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 12062251)

Any ident on the t/prop aircraft in pic1.of #4581...?

Air Tractor AT-802

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Originally Posted by Canary Boy (Post 12062211)

So DJT is even more unhappy that (former) allies of the USA, especially the UK, haven’t joined-in with his SMO. Donald - you broke it, you bought it. When I last looked Mr Hegseth, UK had invested heavily in the defence of those countries directly affected. 1000 or so personnel, air defence systems, ships and aircraft and, no doubt, other assets which will not be discussed here. We, also, will remember.

Given the President’s continual insults and belittling of the UK and its armed forces, how are things on units with US exchange officers? Has anyone been to a dining in night recently when a toast was proposed to “The president of the USA”. Did anyone stand?

Ref Post No 4595

It could be a S. Korean Hercules C130J

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Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation (Post 12062263)

Air Tractor AT-802

That's what I thought initially, but the wing is wrong, and where's the main gear? Certainly looks like a similar PT6 and prop.

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 12062251)

Any ident on the t/prop aircraft in pic1.of #4581...?

OA-1 Skyraider II. I think

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Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 12061678)

Looks like, with the Iranian air force reduced to dust, the air-to-air threat is gone and the F-22s are headed home.

Meanwhile the A-10s heading out to the war zone have arrived in the UK. Long slow legs at their speed.

Video[[color=#000000]QUOTE]https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/...357275370?s=20

I thought they were retiring the A-10s…

From AI summary:

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The A-10 Thunderbolt II, commonly known as the Warthog, is being retired by the U.S. Air Force due to its vulnerability in modern combat environments, particularly against advanced air defense systems. This decision raises concerns about the potential capability gap in close air support as the military shifts focus to newer aircraft like the F-35 and B-21 Raider.

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I thought they were retiring the A-10s…

The USAF keeps on wanting to retire them, but the Senate isn’t convinced and then real world ops get in the way.

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A-10 Thunderbolt IIs are strafing boats in the Straits of Hormuz as part of President Trump’s war on Iran, and at least some experts say it shows why the venerable aircraft should remain in service."The A-10 Warthog is now in the fight across the southern flank and is hunting and killing fast-attack watercraft in the Straits of Hormuz,” Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said during a Pentagon press briefing on Thursday.

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...rement/412254/

No US report of the attack and any casualties. But I wouldn’t expect one until any family have been informed, and perhaps not even then.

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https://x.com/Osint613/status/2039052517686776039?s=20

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IRGC Aerospace Force Commander Moosavi:

Today, we attacked the residence of American pilots and aircrew in Al Kharj, Saudi Arabia, with a drone and a missile, and struck a gathering of 200 people.

Now, to the list of casualties and damages for Trump and Hegseth, apart from the AWACS, tankers, and fuel depots, a list of casualties and injuries to the flight crew has also been added.

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Originally Posted by visibility3miles (Post 12062288)

I thought they were retiring the A-10s…

From AI summary:

Keeping something that really works makes everything else they want, that doesn't work, look bad.

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 12062251)

Any ident on the t/prop aircraft in pic1.of #4581...?

Looks like they uses AI to change the aspect ratio of the image.

Could be the Thrush SP2R 660 based Border Patrol aircraft.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0b3ab8c071.png

If you look closely at #4581 there is what looks like a `bicycle undercarriage/a la U2.`., with maybe outriggers near the wing tips..Not a Thrush.
Thanks DeanO,we did fly together,and I`m going to Specsavers on Friday,to see if they can fix my 35 yr old glasses.....!!

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Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 12062330)

The whole bottom part of the image is an AI hallucination with the nose wheel, outriggers etc and the shadow doesn't match the aircraft plan either.

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Originally Posted by zhishengji751 (Post 12062324)

Looks like they uses AI to change the aspect ratio of the image.

Could be the Thrush SP2R 660 based Border Patrol aircraft.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0b3ab8c071.png

WAG. Recon varient of the AO-1K

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Originally Posted by Tu.114 (Post 12062205)

The other part of the deleted post saying that NATO was not there to cater for every whim of the US president

Did you bother reading my post in response to the DJT tweet that ORAC had provided? I was a few miles ahead of the other canine on that one.
Here, let me help you, in part...

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Originally Posted by My Own Bad Self

But to declare that NATO has not been there for us is both untrue and unfair.
Being in NATO has never been about "I say jump, you ask how high" - it's been about building consensus and then embarking on a course of action together.
If one doesn't do the first part, it's not right to complain about others not directly participating (in this case in Iran) in the second part.

I answered the mail on that before it was even asked for.
You are welcome. ;)

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Iran’s IRGC warns it will target U.S. companies in the region, including Microsoft, Google, Apple, Intel, IBM, Tesla, and Boeing, in retaliation for attacks on Iran, starting 8 p.m. Tehran time on April 1st.

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https://x.com/PolymarketIntel/status...286463104?s=20

IRGC:
"For every elimination, a US company will be destroyed. Since the most central entity in planning and locating elimination targets is American ICT and AI companies, in response to this terrorist act, from now on, the central institutions influencing terrorist actions will be legitimate targets from our perspective."

They've been consistent.
If we bleed, you bleed.

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More of the same.
If we bleed, you bleed.

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Originally Posted by albatross (Post 12062349)

WAG. Recon varient of the AO-1K

Likely one of these:

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ates_Air_Force

Ayres Thrush United States multirole IOMAX S2R-T660 Archangel 24
Air Tractor AT-802 United States multirole16

Bruce

It seems Italy, France, and Spain have denied overflight rights to U.S. military flights for the Iran conflict.

Just read an an article describing Iran's fiber-optic cable drones which can spool out right across the Hormuz Strait, but US forces would be almost completely untrained and unprepared to counter them in any effective way.