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Seen-A-Lot 15th January 2007 16:08

So just so i'm clear on this. It's ok for an older guy (I'm talking 30-40's)who's been given a position of authority and moral responsibility, to be getting to know rather well, his 18 and 19 year old student. Would it be ok if it was her university lecturer, or perhaps if she was in 6th form and it was her form master?

airborne_artist 15th January 2007 16:12


airborne artist, are your posts related?
No, I wasn't the one enjoying the pleasure of two at once - I think he was about four doors down the block and on the other side of the corridor. And sad to say nothing happened with the curvy cadet, so 100% failure on both counts.

MCPwhore 15th January 2007 16:13

Yep, pretty much, they are engaging in extra-curricular activity, and so was I.

Would have been a dull old tour if we all played by the rules... Can't beat a bit of young blood!

stillin1 15th January 2007 16:28

Seen-A-Lot

grow up and do something official about it, if it is an abuse of power:mad: If it ain't - accept that they are gettin some and you ain't and stop whingin:yuk:

have a spine or crawl back under the stone:ugh:

Seen-A-Lot 15th January 2007 16:32

I've rattled someones cage have I? To be honest I can think of nothing worse. 18..... no thanks. Like dipping my wick in my mates daughter.

Whirlygig 15th January 2007 16:32


Would it be ok if it was her university lecturer, or perhaps if she was in 6th form and it was her form master?
Why ISN'T it OK - apart from the reason I gave for you? An 18/19 year old girl is NOT a child and, when it comes to girls, they are a lot more mature than boys and are capable (in most cases) of making a decision. As long as it is consenting, what is wrong?

When I was at school, the PE teacher had a "relationship" with a fifth year (she was 16) and, as far as I know, they are still married.

MCPWhore says you can't beat a bit of new blood - I say you can't beat a bit of experience!

Sorry, I've just seen your last post wrt rattling cages. You're a first time poster (although maybe not new to Pprune) and have made some "tut-tut isn't it awful" comments with which very few people agree. So, if you feel a particular situation is "out of order", then you should speak to the appropriate people. If you're asking for other people's opinions to the matter, you'll find that most think there's no big deal.

Cheers

Whirls

SASless 15th January 2007 16:38

I am in need of some refresher training dear Whirls.....:E

Whirlygig 15th January 2007 16:42

Sassy dahling,

I'm not sure it works the other way round i.e. older male student and younger, female instructor! :E

Nice try sweet! :ok:

Cheers

Whirls

Cattivo 15th January 2007 16:44

Seen a lot
 
I don't see anyone in the UAS system complaining, so why the **** are you?

LuckyBreak 15th January 2007 17:19


Originally Posted by muppetofthenorth (Post 3069411)

.......it is by no means encouraged and it is always stressed that at no time is anybody obliged to drink, participation is always totally voluntary......


Only if you go to a UAS for girls. Man up and get drinking, it will stand you in good stead for the rest of your time in the airforce!

muppetofthenorth 15th January 2007 17:26

Woah! Im not saying I don't drink! I'm just saying that it's not a forced thing...

I know very few people who don't, but I know that if somebody said 'nah, not tonight thanks' we would never push them into it.

Legalapproach 15th January 2007 17:27


When I was at school, the PE teacher had a "relationship" with a fifth year (she was 16) and, as far as I know, they are still married.
Not any longer, section 16 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 created the offence of Abuse of position of trust: sexual activity with a child. Without going through it word by word a teacher having any sexual activity with a pupil under 18 who attends the place of education at which he teaches faces up to 5 years of "re-education" at one of Her Majesty's penal institutions.

ProfessionalStudent 15th January 2007 17:40


Originally Posted by Seen-A-Lot (Post 3069786)
Like dipping my wick in my mates daughter.

You like dipping your wick in your mate's daughter eh? Does he know?

And you have the front to question UAS staff.
The downright cheek!

I agree with the above. Got a problem - use the chain of command. If you haven't - don't try and stir the sh!t in here. Weasel.

Just cos you ain't getting any...?

Alexander.Yakovlev 15th January 2007 18:32

It genuinely pains me to say it, but if you beleive that the UAS drink heavily you clearly haven't socilised with URNU or UOTC...

BootFlap 15th January 2007 18:38

So let me get this right, two (or in some cases three, jammy bar steward!) consenting adults of legal age have been 'getting it on' having met through work; this may also have involved some socialising. Someone not involved has decided to go public rather than confront the issue to those 'bumping uglies'. So, I asume this is Mr Prescott at it again?
Frankly, it's up to them! If they are happy, who are we to complain? If they are not, there are plenty of ways of solving it between themselves (I believe that dumping by text is now de rigeur). For myself, I wonder would it have been ok if one of my IOT Flt Cdrs had offered me a ride; she certainly did in my dreams....................................................
whoops, ND, ND!

tmmorris 15th January 2007 18:55

At most universities that sort of thing is OK but the lecturer has to tell the head of department, so they don't find themselves marking the student's exams... This is quite a good deterrent: having to go to the Professor and explain you are bonking half your seminar group is a tad hard to do. Unless he's doing it too, of course.

Tim

SASless 15th January 2007 20:24

Whirls my sweet....even old rats like cheese! I'll go halves on the bar bill....honest!

Sunfish 15th January 2007 21:01

With great respect, if any of you or your colleagues are detected having a relationship with a person where there is an instructor/student relationship that implies trust and a position of power in any institution I am aware of, you will be immediately shown the door, notwithstanding legal age etc. etc.

While I am aware of people getting away with it in the services over here, it is NOT a good idea and scandals and lots of tears regularly occur - they just rarely make the media.

P.S. Is pregnancy regarded as a self inflicted wound?

mayorofgander 15th January 2007 21:20

[SIGH]
I just wish I had the chance with the younger girls these days (16-30 age group before you start)!!!:\
Saying that....even 30 is pushing it now!!:{

MOG:cool:

airborne_artist 15th January 2007 21:21


P.S. Is pregnancy regarded as a self inflicted wound?
In the non-PC 80s, pregnant ladies were referred to by A+E staff at Tommys' as "Bedroom stabbings"


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