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PerArdua 4th October 2006 10:36


Perhaps if you all stopped applying for the Chief of the Air Staff job, or postings in the West Indies, the rest of the RAF could get on and do some account maintenance?
Just checked and they are not available! What is this hook I find in my mouth cast by the Senior Service.

PA

PompeySailor 4th October 2006 10:39


Originally Posted by PerArdua (Post 2888099)
Just checked and they are not available! What is this hook I find in my mouth cast by the Senior Service.

PA

No West Indies postings? My mistake. We must have traded them off for the all the States jobs......:ok:

Wyler 4th October 2006 11:08

I leave the RAF in 8 weeks time and am still owed £1000.00. JPA Helpline says it is an issue for the Housing Exec (or whatever it is called today). They say it is an RAF matter. Local HR too busy with backlog. :ugh: :ugh:

I have decided that, on my last day, I am going to take the bosses service Corsa home. I will sell it back to them for £1000.00. :*

PompeySailor 4th October 2006 12:12


Originally Posted by Wyler (Post 2888158)
I leave the RAF in 8 weeks time and am still owed £1000.00. JPA Helpline says it is an issue for the Housing Exec (or whatever it is called today). They say it is an RAF matter. Local HR too busy with backlog. :ugh: :ugh:

I have decided that, on my last day, I am going to take the bosses service Corsa home. I will sell it back to them for £1000.00. :*

£1000 for a Service Corsa? You need to nick 4 of them to make that much!

Roland Pulfrew 4th October 2006 12:34

Did anyone else out there suffer the PAYE fiasco last month? Mine jumped by some £600 for no apparent reason!! It seems that JPA caught the error because they paid me it back:D Actually before the end of the month and the monthly pay statement!! If they can't get PAYE right (even though this would appear to have been correct for the preceeding 5 months) what faith do we have that the system is actually paying and taxing us correctly?:rolleyes:

Chainkicker 4th October 2006 14:42

Bl**dy DHE!
 

Originally Posted by Wyler (Post 2888158)
I leave the RAF in 8 weeks time and am still owed £1000.00. JPA Helpline says it is an issue for the Housing Exec (or whatever it is called today). They say it is an RAF matter. Local HR too busy with backlog. :ugh: :ugh:
I have decided that, on my last day, I am going to take the bosses service Corsa home. I will sell it back to them for £1000.00. :*

Was this originally about DHE still charging you rent after you had moved out? (cant be bothered to search thru the entire thread). :ok:
If so, I had the same sort of problem earlier this year which was resolved eventually after the Chief Clerk started hassling DHE on a regular basis. DHE are the only ones with sufficient system permissions to go in and change the occupation/march out date but its far too much hassle for them to do their job!!! Glad i'm out now and dont have to put up with their shoddy service any more :ok:

PompeySailor 4th October 2006 21:22


Originally Posted by Chainkicker (Post 2888535)
Was this originally about DHE still charging you rent after you had moved out? (cant be bothered to search thru the entire thread). :ok:
If so, I had the same sort of problem earlier this year which was resolved eventually after the Chief Clerk started hassling DHE on a regular basis. DHE are the only ones with sufficient system permissions to go in and change the occupation/march out date but its far too much hassle for them to do their job!!! Glad i'm out now and dont have to put up with their shoddy service any more :ok:

DHE/MHS are great. I must admit, at the risk of exposing myself, that facing another frustrating week of not getting the job done for my significant 2*, I phoned the Chief Exec and gave it the "oh, sorry sir, thought I was getting your PS, but as you are on the phone....."

Job done, all paperwork signed, just a crying shame that I had to pull someone else's rank on this because the Liverpool/Local Office staff were so crap. I have never met an organisation that were able to drop their shoulders and shift blame so quickly and readily. And every letter they sent seemed to have left out the "satisfaction questionnaire" for some strange reason!

Chainkicker 5th October 2006 17:10

DHE/MHS are great
 

Originally Posted by PompeySailor (Post 2889237)
DHE/MHS are great. I must admit, at the risk of exposing myself, that facing another frustrating week of not getting the job done for my significant 2*, I phoned the Chief Exec and gave it the "oh, sorry sir, thought I was getting your PS, but as you are on the phone....."
Job done, all paperwork signed, just a crying shame that I had to pull someone else's rank on this because the Liverpool/Local Office staff were so crap. I have never met an organisation that were able to drop their shoulders and shift blame so quickly and readily. And every letter they sent seemed to have left out the "satisfaction questionnaire" for some strange reason!

With the negligible risk of outing myself (computer literacy seems mutually exclusive to the DHE staff i encountered :rolleyes: ) what most impressed me was, after having received the solution that needed to be implemented (must be a first :) ) from the JPAC helpdesk, when i explained what needed to be done to the oxygen thief in the DHE office in UXB, ie. march me out of my MQ on 1 Apr on JPA as marching me out under the old system in mid March only accounted for up to 1 Apr, the reply was "But we hav'n't got time to action march outs to JPA because it takes too long to do". I managed to put the phone down without resorting to abuse (something part of me still regrets :)) and penned an email to the Stn Cdr which seemed to pay off a couple of weeks later with a full refund :D

4fitter 5th October 2006 20:14

MHS
 
Sorry for slight thread creep but today I had cause to ring 'customer complaints' in Liverpool:

4f I'd like to make a complaint
Brendan What is it
4f You have rescheduled my repair work for the 4th time on the evening before after I have made arrangements for someone to be in the house.
Brendan No we haven't
4f Yes you have, you rang me last night
Brendan The computer says we didn't because the parts not in.
4f You rang last week and told me the part is in and booked to come today.
Brendan What is your name
4f (rank) 4f
Brendan So that is Mr 4f
4f No it is (rank) 4f
Brendan I'm sorry Mr 4f but we don't recognise ranks

I could go on but I can feel my BP rising now. Funnily, the contractor arrived today,with the part, because the MHS schedulers had forgotten to tell him that he was being rescheduled.

It is a complete farce and another example of cheap shoody support to the serviceman.

Wader2 6th October 2006 09:46

Don't worry about going for the head honcho as long as you are sure of your facts and are polite and constructive.

I had been messed around right royally for over 18 months, first because someone of the requiste rank was not in post, then they needed time to get in post, then the paperwork was lost, then it was paid (only it wasn't) and then it all started again and still nothing happened.

I went direct to a CS * equivalent at STC and got a charming thank you back. Job done.

charlie55 5th November 2006 19:46

Something just got better...
 
I'm leaving; not before time some would say. But I discovered the easy way out of JPA. Use the manual Form (6 I think) to claim for everything you think you're owed and hand it in marked "retiring". The good folk in HR, as it now is (Dear God!), will process the paperwork with some urgency and you'll get what you're owed, pronto.

The point is that Form 6 is the easiest thing to use I've ever seen...so they do get some things right. Ciao!;)

movadinkampa747 5th November 2006 22:09

"The JPA thread seems to be missing. Have we solved all the problems or is the long screwdriver evident?"

You found the JPA thread then. Where was it?

Wyler 7th November 2006 14:30

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I marched out of my MQ end of Aug. Assured that all paperwork would be done and pay adjusted. Latest pay statement says no! Talked to HR(:mad: name) and told to go back to Defence Estates. Did so and they said all paperwork submitted so not their problem. Phoned JPAC today and the :mad: idiot did not know the difference between single and married accom. I was told quote: It ain't nuffink to do wiv us'.
I leave the RAF in 23 days and am owed hundreds of pounds. What a sh!t way to end 25 years service.
I have just sent the mother of all e-mails to our precious HR personnel and am waiting for a reply. The next b@stard that tells me it is not their problem is going to spend the rest of their life being fed through a F:mad: ing straw.









and..........relax......breath in......breath out.......

vecvechookattack 7th November 2006 17:19

Being just a newcomer to JPA (We went live 3 weeks ago) I can't seem to find any problems with it. The system works fine, the Help desk are helpful....my only gripe is that the Help desk numbering needs sorting out....


"welcome to JPAC...please dial 1 for the RAF, 2 for the Navy"...


For a start, its the ROYAL Navy and seeing as we are the senior service, shouldn't the RN be Number 1 ?

LFFC 7th November 2006 18:39


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2951460)
Being just a newcomer to JPA (We went live 3 weeks ago) I can't seem to find any problems with it. The system works fine, the Help desk are helpful....my only gripe is that the Help desk numbering needs sorting out....


"welcome to JPAC...please dial 1 for the RAF, 2 for the Navy"...


For a start, its the ROYAL Navy and seeing as we are the senior service, shouldn't the RN be Number 1 ?

Just wait until your circumstances change for some reason! You'll be out of pocket for months while you try and sort out the mess!

H5N1 7th November 2006 18:43

Ha! don't be fooled by JPA going ok for the first few weeks. I was paid correctly for 2 mnths only for the friendly folk in JPAland to decide that this wasn't good enough and why shouldn't I be messed around like the other 99.9% of users. So in month 3 they dropped my pay band and back dated it for 4 months. I have tried phoning every day for the money they owe me which now runs over £1000 as they change my salary on a monthly basis taking more and more cash off of me. The people on the end of the 'helpline' (they should be sued for calling it that for a start) constantly tell me that someone will get back to me in 10 working days and my query is now at the highest level of investigation. No one seems to give a monkeys as they know you can't just pop over to SHQ anymore. I have heard a rumour, don't know how true, that they have quotas to meet for complaints solved so they work through the easiest complaints first in order to meet their productivity quota, leaving those with complicated cases to spend hours on the phone to no avail. Luckily we are both working or the bank manager might not have been too happy!

zedder 7th November 2006 18:53

Wyler,
I moved out of my MQ about the time JPA went live. Thought I might have the same problem getting the system to stop charging for it. I got the same run-around as to who was responsible for actioning the instruction within JPA to stop the payments. In the end my very helpful mini-Adj discovered that she was able to stop the payment herself. She took my word for it as to the date my occupancy ceased and it was all straight on the next payslip.

Now a 'J' Bloke!! 7th November 2006 19:01


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2951460)
Being just a newcomer to JPA (We went live 3 weeks ago) I can't seem to find any problems with it. The system works fine, the Help desk are helpful....my only gripe is that the Help desk numbering needs sorting out....


"welcome to JPAC...please dial 1 for the RAF, 2 for the Navy"...


For a start, its the ROYAL Navy and seeing as we are the senior service, shouldn't the RN be Number 1 ?

Try and put in a travel claim. My Home to Duty (a mileage based thing) goes in as a receipt based expense!! Go figure!!!:confused:

Oh and you were second arrival on to JPA.. Tissue Princess???:{
It'll be 'Dial 3 for Trench Foot 'next...TSK TSK!!!:ok:

'J' Bloke!!:cool:

Ginseng 7th November 2006 19:52

VVHA
 
I presume, then, that you are speaking as an RN HR administrator, since I understand your self-service users get cast adrift next week.

Don't be fooled too much just yet. Having had 6 months to experience the RAF's teething problems, and the opportunity to release Version 2 of the software to cooincide with RN rollout, we should expect the RN's experience to be a little less fraught than ours was. However, are all the problems solved? I wouldn't bet on it just yet. I hear some of your personnel have been given a zero leave balance because of problems with transfer of data from the legacy systems - manual override now necessary. And you haven't seen a pay run or tried to make an expenses claim yet!

Good luck!

Ginseng

Safeware 7th November 2006 20:06

Vec, maybe you need to get through to this helpline:
http://scottrope.typepad.com/scott_r...ing_machi.html

:)

sw


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