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meleagertoo 3rd May 2023 19:48

If these strikes really are not Ruzzian maskirovka then the planners of the upcoming Great Patriotic Goose-Stepping Festivals are going to be developing paranoid headaches.
If only sleepers/partisans could replicate this harmless little display over Red Square as the missiles or massed hordes of cannon-fodder are trundling! The psychological anticipation that they might would be immensely powerful in days to come. Just 'if'.
Sweat, you barstewards, sweat!

GlobalNav 3rd May 2023 20:01


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11429620)
Now the propagandists blame us as the reason behind all the expelled Diplomats across the world, just as well they couldn’t invade us without the help of China
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/st...C8qarAkOotAAAA

The accusation is a mark of honor to the UK. I’d also like to be known as an enemy of the evil aggressor and war criminal.

NutLoose 3rd May 2023 20:06

Dukem Nukem is about to have a coronary over the attack on the Kremlin…. It makes my heart good to see, it makes his fit to burst. :E


NutLoose 3rd May 2023 20:17

Images of the roof damage, and what looks like a temporary patch.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....345f9e78a.jpeg



tdracer 3rd May 2023 21:23

If the real intent of the drone attack was to cause human casualties, you'd think they'd aim for something other than the room. Like maybe a doorway?
I smell a false flag.

fdr 3rd May 2023 21:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11429205)
It appears the Pope is now trying to stick his oar into the peace process though not invited too by Ukraine. Short of **** orf from Ukrainian territory and don’t come back and recompense them for the damage and losses, I cannot see anything else being acceptable.



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...C9mavu1fEtAAAA

Wasn't aware that the Vatican City had been criminally attacked by Russia, had it's population murdered in cold blood, captives beheaded, property stolen. Must have slept through that bit. Having a direct line to the boss probably helps with negotiating things..... can they please get the boss to fail the window catches on Vlads apartment!


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 11429612)
Medvedev's take:
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/sta...99406775283720

1. If Russia were capable of assassinating Zelensky, they would have done it already
2. The drone could only be considered an assassination attempt if the person flying it genuinely thought that Putin spends his nights sitting on the roof

they have been trying to do that since Feb 24 2022..... how's that working out for you so far Vlad.

Seems odd that the Ukrainians would go to al the effort of flying a drone from Ukraine to the Kremlin, and then forgetting to put any bang in it. Russia has a single play book, written by Potemkin, all smoke, mirrors and own goals. 191,940 fewer voters for Vlad so far. Well done!

Vlad doesn't get it yet that every Ukrainian on the field is now a Zelenskyy, just like all the #200 and #300's of the criminal forces of Russia are Vladomir's. The Ukrainians holding out in Bakhmut aren't there at gun point, they are there to kill invaders, and just like Zelenskyy, they aren't asking for a ride, they just want the tools to do pest control.


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11429687)
Dukem Nukem is about to have a coronary over the attack on the Kremlin…. It makes my heart good to see, it makes his fit to burst. :E



https://twitter.com/NatalkaKyiv/stat...C-neyC0fMtAAAA

He's been at the magic mushrooms again. Could not find a cogent train of thought in his diatribe, he seems to be taking on attributes from Tucker. 1+1= 191,940.


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 11429350)
Let's be flattered, Nutty. Even China on its own can't defeat Britain, but requires the aid of a minor Eastern-European country.

But China, and the second best army in Ukraine?

The concept seems to be in line with the invective the Mr Nukem Dukem brings forth like a fur ball in his incessant white noise parroting Kremlin propaganda. Russia doesn't need to look to the east for help, they need to prepare for the east evicting Russian speakers from the Chinese territory that has been assimilated into the Russian federation, where China didn't have a vote. Vlad has given Xi the vote to recover those lands that have been squandered by Russia in the interim.

Russia is heading towards their historic dimensions, when they were a corridor between St Pete's and Moscow.

Buster Hyman 3rd May 2023 23:16


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11429705)
If the real intent of the drone attack was to cause human casualties, you'd think they'd aim for something other than the room. Like maybe a doorway?
I smell a false flag.

Or a window. Those are incredibly dangerous in the USSR…I mean, the RF.

unmanned_droid 3rd May 2023 23:37

whatever crashed in to the Kremlin building had a range of around 10-15 miles based on its size. UAVs coming in from Ukraine would need to be much larger to carry the required fuel.

As a result of these antics there could be some v serious attempts on Kyiv tonight.

Currently this guy:


is getting reports in of possible movements of nuclear weapons and prep for missile strikes of various types as I type. The guy in the video seems to be ex FSB who has leaked a lot in the past. He's doxxing lots of long range aviation aircrew and associated personnel to prove that they cannot hide if they use a nuke.

Sue Vêtements 4th May 2023 00:04

It looked more like a cheap firework that an actual attack

I'd be pretty pissed off if I was Ukraine and I'd gone to the trouble of planning that and that's all I got out of it. OTOH If I was Russia, I wouldn't want to do too much actual damage, so this would be about right. Maybe choose a part of the roof that already needed replacing

...and why would it explode in mid air and not on contact


jolihokistix 4th May 2023 00:29

Maybe they were just sighting runs to see/show how accurate they could be.

megan 4th May 2023 00:59

False flag was my initial take, stir up the locals, those bar steward Ukrainians are trying to kill you, stir up the patriotic feelings and get a good turn out for the parade.

Maybe they were just sighting runs to see/show how accurate they could be
Now there's a thought, hope they can pull it off if that's the case.

NutLoose 4th May 2023 01:08

Being behind the mayday parade stands it would be pretty hard to cover it up in the filming of the show if the roof burnt.

NutLoose 4th May 2023 01:12

Hmmm

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Winemaker 4th May 2023 01:12


Originally Posted by unmanned_droid (Post 11429765)
whatever crashed in to the Kremlin building had a range of around 10-15 miles based on its size. UAVs coming in from Ukraine would need to be much larger to carry the required fuel.

As a result of these antics there could be some v serious attempts on Kyiv tonight.

Currently this guy:

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...02666077175810

is getting reports in of possible movements of nuclear weapons and prep for missile strikes of various types as I type. The guy in the video seems to be ex FSB who has leaked a lot in the past. He's doxxing lots of long range aviation aircrew and associated personnel to prove that they cannot hide if they use a nuke.

Re-posted to make the link visible.

NutLoose 4th May 2023 01:58

I rather like this.

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NutLoose 4th May 2023 02:12

Holy ****! From the 337 post, let’s hope it’s all fake as I have work in the morning ;)



​​​​​​​From #WindofChange right now about Russian bombers getting equipped with nuclear warheads: "There is no clear strategy, the aim is to terrify and cause chaos. The Service (FSB) is being redirected to counter a coup. The wheels have come off and no one has any clue of what's going on. The documents have not been completed for the "red button" mechanism. (for nuclear launch) This is raising the stakes and insanity."
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​​​​​​​To Osechkin right now: "Hello, my name is ____, 47th Air Regiment Military Unit 105117, 105th Air Division. I am a Tu-22M3 bomber pilot. They are trying to force me to launch Kalibr missiles at downtown Kyiv. Every mechanic knows - those are nuclear warheads. Takeoff around 5am. There are some delays due to mechanics, but overall everything appears to going according to plan. I will not launch these missiles. Worst case - I will launch them toward the ocean, or destroy myself along with the plane. Than you for opening my eyes to the criminality of this war. Glory to Ukraine"
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megan 4th May 2023 02:27

From Ward Carroll


Load Toad 4th May 2023 04:34

Noting better than to give an advance warning of a surprise attack

ORAC 4th May 2023 05:23

Good well researched thread on the Kremlin attack.

Two drones, first hit the dome and started the fire - which is why men were climbing the roof and people videoing them when the second drone arrived.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...891414040.html

fdr 4th May 2023 05:28


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11429804)
Holy ****! From the 337 post, let’s hope it’s all fake as I have work in the morning ;)

Time to remind Vader of the consequences of more crimes against humanity.... He's giving evil a bad name.



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