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chopper2004 8th Feb 2022 13:00

Dassault Falcon 900LX replace 32 Sqn BAE 146
 
Here ya go

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles...AqlHweXUs4xOlg


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....daf0f0133.jpeg

melmothtw 8th Feb 2022 13:28

Already a thread running on this.

bobward 8th Feb 2022 14:50

Four engines reduced to 3! A 25% reduction in emissions!:8

Foghorn Leghorn 8th Feb 2022 15:23

Not a bad little gig. Get a Falcon 900 type rating courtesy of the RAF.

Davef68 8th Feb 2022 16:37


Originally Posted by bobward (Post 11181592)
Four engines reduced to 3! A 25% reduction in emissions!:8

Ssssh, no-one mention it's one more than the BAE125s.... :-)

Less Hair 8th Feb 2022 16:40

G-AMILA and G-ATE?

NutLoose 8th Feb 2022 16:42

Oddly enough, I might be wrong, but I seem to remember something about the Falcon 2000 wing being the same as the 900 but they had blanked of part of the tankage to stop people buying the twin instead of the trijet.. after all why buy three when you can fly on two and have the same range.

https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en...t/falcon-2000/

https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en...ft/falcon-900/

I used to work on a 900, nice aircraft.

How about G-OVEN and G-OUKG?

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MPN11 8th Feb 2022 17:02

G-OURS and G-EXEU

Less Hair 8th Feb 2022 17:35

Right. Whenever you need to shop for an aircraft carrier or VVIP jet you go to...?

Cat Techie 9th Feb 2022 10:28


Originally Posted by Foghorn Leghorn (Post 11181609)
Not a bad little gig. Get a Falcon 900 type rating courtesy of the RAF.

Then you leave the RAF and find out that your CAA AML rating with it is worthless with most corporate operators will want an EASA member state licence so you can sign non G aircraft. That is the truth with most job adverts for UK corporate operators now. You swap your licence?

NutLoose 9th Feb 2022 11:20

You could have held both at one point
https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-ind...nance-Licence/

But i think they were referring to Pilots licences

Trim Stab 9th Feb 2022 17:48


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11181654)
Oddly enough, I might be wrong, but I seem to remember something about the Falcon 2000 wing being the same as the 900 but they had blanked of part of the tankage to stop people buying the twin instead of the trijet.. after all why buy three when you can fly on two and have the same range.

https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en...t/falcon-2000/

https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en...ft/falcon-900/

I used to work on a 900, nice aircraft.

How about G-OVEN and G-OUKG?

.

Take off and landing performance substantially different though. I once saw the GLAM land Sarkozy on wet runway 35 at Cannes in a 900. The threshold is displaced to about a third of the way down the runway on 35, and they landed it right on the piano keys - looked like no chance of stopping. But it stopped with hundreds of metres to spare. The t/o was equally impressive.

Cat Techie 9th Feb 2022 18:11


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11182034)
You could have held both at one point
https://www.caa.co.uk/Commercial-ind...nance-Licence/

But i think they were referring to Pilots licences

They were. AML's you could not. You could have swapped them. I was an idiot not to. Then again COVID got in the way.

2 TWU 9th Feb 2022 18:50

G-LIAR and G-PRAT ?

NutLoose 9th Feb 2022 20:10


Originally Posted by Cat Techie (Post 11182194)
They were. AML's you could not. You could have swapped them. I was an idiot not to. Then again COVID got in the way.

Yes you could have applied to get an EU licence then later the CAA fearing having no one left offered a dual licence if you had changed to an EU one. Not sure if it’s still possible, but I doubt it. Still odd that we now have a CAA Part 66 and CAA Section L licences.

Arthur1815 9th Feb 2022 20:37

If you hold an EASA ATPL and previously held a UK ATPL, there is a process for re-issuing a new UK licence with minimal pain. The easy route needs to be followed this year. It was not an afterthought by the CAA, but planned during the BREXIT negotiations. The hope was that EASA would reciprocate with common sense applied by both sides.

NutLoose 9th Feb 2022 21:07

We were taking engineer licences Arthur.

Foghorn Leghorn 9th Feb 2022 21:36


Originally Posted by Cat Techie (Post 11182007)
Then you leave the RAF and find out that your CAA AML rating with it is worthless with most corporate operators will want an EASA member state licence so you can sign non G aircraft. That is the truth with most job adverts for UK corporate operators now. You swap your licence?

You’re right. It was more aimed at the pilots rather than the maintainers though.

Marchettiman 9th Feb 2022 21:46

Great paint scheme....will it say "Made in France" by the door?

Cat Techie 9th Feb 2022 22:03


Originally Posted by Arthur1815 (Post 11182249)
If you hold an EASA ATPL and previously held a UK ATPL, there is a process for re-issuing a new UK licence with minimal pain. The easy route needs to be followed this year. It was not an afterthought by the CAA, but planned during the BREXIT negotiations. The hope was that EASA would reciprocate with common sense applied by both sides.

Yes, you are correct. But we are not part of EASA anymore so what EASA think of our licences is their business and not ours. We will diverge from EASA in regs very shortly so there is no commonality. Some may say for the better. I suspect otherwise. UK engineers that have already swapped licences can get CAA ones now. I know with my one current rating that is live, I am now barred from most corporate operators of the same type.in this country. And it was up to people working for G companies on G aircraft to be forced to change their NRA licence when one was still using them. I wish I had done so. As for PART 66 and Section L debate, I would stick with the PART 66 as it ended up. It is interesting to chat to guys that did section L in 1990s and myself that ended up doing the late EASA Part 66 to first type. Proof I had to obtain and prove was a lot more that the basic oral.


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