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Brain Potter 9th Sep 2022 18:07


Originally Posted by vascodegama (Post 11293824)
The reg of the Falcon which arrived at Aberdeen looks to match one of the 2 x32 Sqn ac. I assumed that the King would get first choice of the flight back.

Maybe he did…

DaveReidUK 9th Sep 2022 18:34


Originally Posted by Timelord (Post 11293831)
It wasn’t either of those aircraft. Clip of him boarding available on BBC live coverage.

And the footage of him arriving at Northolt showed quite a number of people disembarking from the Embraer, likely too many for one of the Falcons.

Asturias56 9th Sep 2022 23:04

Yes - they just kept coming - but I guess it was his Household team, Camilla's, and most of the Queen's ex-household. One or two looked quite familiar from the past

Asturias56 9th Sep 2022 23:06

"Is there a rule / protocol that prevented them travelling together in a single aircraft?"

Common sense - he'd probably have throttled someone the first time the steward referred to Ms truss as "Prime Minister"

chevvron 9th Sep 2022 23:12


Originally Posted by Timelord (Post 11293821)
The King flew South on some random business jet. Poor show I thought.

It looked like and Emb 145 or maybe 155

DaveReidUK 10th Sep 2022 06:35


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11293954)
It looked like an Emb 145 or maybe 155

Embraer ERJ-135BJ (aka Legacy 600) of London Executive Aviation (aka Luxaviation UK).

sycamore 10th Sep 2022 11:27

Maybe the Falcon crew didn`t have a VVIP Category yet.......

NutLoose 10th Sep 2022 13:24

I would imagine the two jets would be busy with other jobs involved with her passing.

It does however show a lack of capability the RAF now has, two new small jets then the next available size up is the Voyager transport wise, which would have been more fitting to bring her home in than a C-17 “freighter”, but I bet they haven’t got the kit for a Coffin that we had for the Tens.

Richard Taylor 10th Sep 2022 13:38

There was an RAF C17 in/out at ABZ very early Fri. However Her Majesty is still lying in State in the Balmoral ballroom so not sure why it was here, but had to be related. She is due to be taken to Edinburgh tmrw (11/9).

NutLoose 10th Sep 2022 13:40

Probably a rehearsal.

wub 10th Sep 2022 13:45


Originally Posted by Richard Taylor (Post 11294240)
There was an RAF C17 in/out at ABZ very early Fri. However Her Majesty is still lying in State in the Balmoral ballroom so not sure why it was here, but had to be related. She is due to be taken to Edinburgh tmrw (11/9).

By road

WB627 10th Sep 2022 14:51


Originally Posted by wub (Post 11294243)
By road

To Edinburgh then after lying in state, to London by Royal Train.


DaveReidUK 10th Sep 2022 16:31


Originally Posted by wub (Post 11294243)
By road

Yes, I can't think of anything more inappropriate than carrying a dead monarch in the back of a C-17.

I'd hazard a guess that it was positioning the hearse, presumably on behalf of Levertons, to ABZ.

RAF_Techie101 10th Sep 2022 16:57


Originally Posted by WB627 (Post 11294280)
To Edinburgh then after lying in state, to London by Royal Train.

This is listed under Operation Unicorn, but multiple news outlets state she could also be flown down, so could be either at this stage.

pebble_hopeful 10th Sep 2022 17:54


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 11294320)
Yes, I can't think of anything more inappropriate than carrying a dead monarch in the back of a C-17.

I'd hazard a guess that it was positioning the hearse, presumably on behalf of Levertons, to ABZ.

Why is a C-17 inappropriate?

It is how service personnel have repatriated.

sycamore 10th Sep 2022 18:07

By Royal Train...headed by `Tornado` and an A4`Elizabethan Line` steamer plus a mandatory Deltic...for the people across the Country....

SWBKCB 10th Sep 2022 18:14


The following day, Princess Anne will accompany her mother's body as it is flown back to London. The Queen's coffin will be taken from Edinburgh Airport to Buckingham Palace via RAF Northolt.
BBC- Queen to lie in state for four full days before state funeral

DaveReidUK 10th Sep 2022 18:19

The consensus in the media now appears to be that the train journey won't happen.

WB627 10th Sep 2022 18:52


Originally Posted by WB627 (Post 11294280)
To Edinburgh then after lying in state, to London by Royal Train.


Sorry, duff gen. Plans have changed apparently, due to time constraints created by lying in state at various locations. She will be flown down to Northolt.

Personally, I do not think that it would be inappropriate for this to be in a C130, A400, or a C17 if that can get into Northolt. It is after all what has transported many service men and women home, who have given their lives for Queen and Country.




NutLoose 10th Sep 2022 20:20

Yes and no, yes because flying them home from a warzone required such aircraft, flying the Monarch back like a piece of freight from Edinburgh just seems wrong.

As I said a Voyager preferably the VIP one with a fit in the baggage hold would have seemed more appropriate, as we used to do with the VC10, and delivered her to Brize or Heathrow

However one guesses they do not have a fit for the A330 which strikes me as piss poor planning. Though I wonder if they will load a Hearse and bring that back in the C17.

Let’s hope someone looks at procuring a fit for the Voyager ( if they do not have one ) for the future.


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