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Don't tell me.
First of all the demands to deploy with Harrier Force in the field in RAFG ( to do what exactly?) Followed by a stream of conditions to build facilities (in the field) to separate the girls from the boys. , |
Originally Posted by Haraka
(Post 11055988)
Don't tell me.
First of all the demands to deploy with Harrier Force in the field in RAFG ( to do what exactly?) Followed by a stream of conditions to build facilities (in the field) to separate the girls from the boys. , https://partner.sciencenorway.no/for...gender/1398746 |
Originally Posted by MPN11
(Post 11055956)
Ha! DWRAF (or was it DDWRAF?) visited RAF Stanley in ‘83, reviewing the suitability for WRAF deployments. I escorted her to our Tactical AR1 site in the rocks on the north side of the airfield ... through the mud. “Where are your ablution facilities here?” she enquired. One of my FS controllers answered ... “You’re standing on them, Ma’am.” I don’t know if Stanley ever got WRAF staff.
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Amazing.
I was Ops 1 at station operations RAF Stanley June to October 1985, and your description bears no resemblance to what I remember. (I was also station Flight Safety Officer and at the same time we had the mid-air between the C-130 and Sea King, but that’s a different story)… |
Separate quarters ....now hold on fellas....that is not "woke" at all.
Then too....we. have to have a score card to identify the different players by uniform....male, female, male identifying as female, female identifying as male, either identifying as neither, Black, White, Tan, Brown...Purple....how far do you go in dividing us all into various groupings these days and that leaves out the Religious followings or not to boot. |
As a retiree my opinion is obviously irrelevant but I could have saved the MOD a few quid by suggesting that we adopt the tried and tested non gender specific titles of 'Aircrew' for the flyers and 'Blunties' for everyone else except engineers who would be called 'Techies'? Obviously anyone who failed to make the grade in any of those trades would still be called 'Movers'.
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Specaircrew
That is the first sensible post on this thread. Bravo.
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As a retiree my opinion is obviously irrelevant but I could have saved the MOD a few quid by suggesting that we adopt the tried and tested non gender specific titles of 'Aircrew' for the flyers and 'Blunties' for everyone else except engineers who would be called 'Techies'? Obviously anyone who failed to make the grade in any of those trades would still be called 'Movers'. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11055803)
Jockey :cool: :cool:
Ungendered and then you can have Desk Jockeys, Jet Jockeys, Tech Jockeys…. |
"REMF's"....not "Movers".
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11056248)
Don’t forget the ‘Scopies”….
FB |
Originally Posted by pr00ne
(Post 11054492)
Nick 1,
So you think that the lack of the ability to discriminate, be rude, objectify and suppress will somehow "extinguish" mankind? |
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Google sure took a stand there didn't they...removed from the "Diversity Team"....not removed from Employment...and no mention of who did the vetting of that clown and what became of their employment.
"I apologize!".....oh my but that is rich! Google should go stand in the corner with a pointy. hat on top of its Head. |
MEMORANDUM FOR SENIOR PENTAGON LEADERSHIP COMMANDERS OF THE COMBATANT COMMANDS DEFENSE AGENCY AND DOD FIELD ACTIVITY DIRECTORS SUBJECT: Promoting and Protecting the Human Rights of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and lntersex Persons Around the World On February 4, 2021 , the President issued a memorandum (TAB A) directing all U.S. departments and agencies that engage abroad or are involved in foreign aid, assistance, and development programs to undertake a number of actions related to promoting and protecting the human rights of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, and lntersex (LGBTQI+) persons. The DoD is defined in the Presidential Memorandum as both an agency engaged abroad and an agency involved in foreign aid, assistance, and development programs. In accordance with the Presidential Memorandum, it is the policy of the DoD to pursue an end to violence and discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or sex characteristics, and DoD will lead by example in the cause of advancing the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons around the world. To effect this policy and as directed in the Presidential Memorandum, as consistent with applicable law and within their responsibilities, DoD Components shall: • Strengthen existing efforts to combat the crimjnalization by foreign governments of LGBTQI+ status or conduct and expand efforts to combat discrimination, homophobia, transphobia, and intolerance on the basis of LGBTQI+ status or conduct. • Expand ongoing efforts to ensure regular DoD engagement with governments, citizens, civil society, and the private sector to promote respect for the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons and combat discrimination. • Consider the impact of programs funded by DoD on human rights, including the rights of LGBTQI+ persons, when making funding decisions. • Strengthen the work DoD has done and initiate additional efforts with other nations, bilaterally and within multilateral fora and international organizations, to: counter discrimination on the basis of LGBTQI+ status or conduct; broaden the number of countries willing to support and defend the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons; strengthen the role, including in multilateral fora, of civil society advocates on behalf of the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons; and strengthen the policies and programming of multilateral institutions, including with respect to protecting vulnerable LGBTQI+ refugees and asylum seekers. |
One person's opinion.....if you have to use descriptive terms, hypenation, and labels....you are the problem.
If we stuck to People, Persons, Justice, Equality, Respect....and terms like that....we would all be better served. Example....let's omit Racial Justice and stick to the simple notion of Justice...which applies to each and every one of us. Or....let's stick to "Lives Matter" or even "All Lives Matter"....which oddly enough covers us all...everyone of us. |
Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 11056709)
One person's opinion.....if you have to use descriptive terms, hypenation, and labels....you are the problem.
If we stuck to People, Persons, Justice, Equality, Respect....and terms like that....we would all be better served. Example....let's omit Racial Justice and stick to the simple notion of Justice...which applies to each and every one of us. Or....let's stick to "Lives Matter" or even "All Lives Matter"....which oddly enough covers us all...everyone of us. |
Correct, listing individual "life style choices" for want of better words, you are defining them as something other than the norm, it should simply have included everyone in the military. In a similiar way I mentioned accomodation and the fact it should be dual sex, the Norgies have tried it and it works, see the link
https://partner.sciencenorway.no/for...gender/1398746 I remember reading that in the UK the SLAM accomodation for the Army was arranged around 6ish beds to a room, to foster a close relationship amongst a squad, surely if you have females in that squad they too should be included. |
As this idea & master plan seems to affect mainly the UK military, is it possibly the time for some comments & action from the Chief of the Defense Staff & his Senior Officers. Perhaps a quiet, or not so word in a Ministers ear might help.
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To say what? That the Armed Forces want to run their own social policy? They're supposed to reflect society , not be seperate from it.
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