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ORAC 15th Apr 2023 19:05

Feel the burn….

As of today, Ukraine sent more MBT to the US than the US to Ukraine.

#T90InLouisiana

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GlobalNav 15th Apr 2023 19:59


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11420329)

Somehow the noose seems too kind.

NutLoose 15th Apr 2023 20:28


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11420364)
Things start becoming interesting…. Donbass Devushka



The situation with @PeImeniPusha aka Donbass Devushka goes further than her not being a Ukrainian from Luhansk

Allegedly a woman from Oak Harbor, WA USA

Donbass Devuskha appears to be a US Navy Clerk who was just discharged and allegedly shared Teixeria stolen docs…


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...473143809.html

And to think they went full Tonto on us when we had the CHQ leak, who isn’t on the USA top secret mailing list, the milkman?

BANANASBANANAS 16th Apr 2023 07:05


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11420424)
And to think they went full Tonto on us when we had the CHQ leak, who isn’t on the USA top secret mailing list, the milkman?



waffler 16th Apr 2023 07:44

I suspect that Prigozhin only wants the war to end so he can claim victory for his mercenary army and gain influence in Moscow,
the longer this war continues the more his army will be consumed, becoming irrelevant as will he.
He cares nothing for the misery he creates, only his own survival.

NutLoose 16th Apr 2023 08:31


Originally Posted by waffler (Post 11420590)
I suspect that Prigozhin only wants the war to end so he can claim victory for his mercenary army and gain influence in Moscow,
the longer this war continues the more his army will be consumed, becoming irrelevant as will he.
He cares nothing for the misery he creates, only his own survival.

The only advances in Wagner’s major ground offensive appears to be in Russia where he recently raised a 2022-2023 monument at his latest cemetery / field.
Note, he appears to be planning ahead for more of the same dismal performance in Ukraine, as he has lots of room left to fill for the year ahead.


Trying to look kind hearted after beheading reports, odd no signs of a Ukraine flag on their uniforms, nor film of their arrival I have seen.

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Asturias56 16th Apr 2023 09:31

"Well, this is a good reminder of the power of US sanctions, the dominance of US dollar in international finance - and how carrots and sticks work in diplomacy."

To quote Mr Capone:-

"You get so much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone"

jolihokistix 16th Apr 2023 11:18


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11420671)
"Well, this is a good reminder of the power of US sanctions, the dominance of US dollar in international finance - and how carrots and sticks work in diplomacy."

To quote Mr Capone:-

"You get so much further with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone"

Saddam Hussein would have ascribed to that. Love, hugs and kisses, and a bullet to the head.

NutLoose 16th Apr 2023 11:46

Gepards on show


showing Russia they are building up?



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NutLoose 16th Apr 2023 12:06

Worries in Russia as to where the Counter offensive will kick off.


NutLoose 16th Apr 2023 12:27

Ukraine Blackhawk training.


FUMR 16th Apr 2023 12:49


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11420775)
Worries in Russia as to where the Counter offensive will kick off.



https://twitter.com/LvivJournal/stat...89570696863744

Kinda thought they would have been heading the other way, i.e. away from Crimea!

jolihokistix 16th Apr 2023 13:10

Maybe the rumo(u)rs are going around Russia that Crimea may become a testing ground for unconventional weapons, as 'no more Mr nice man' Mr P has threatened.

tdracer 16th Apr 2023 14:54


Originally Posted by jolihokistix (Post 11420797)
Maybe the rumo(u)rs are going around Russia that Crimea may become a testing ground for unconventional weapons, as 'no more Mr nice man' Mr P has threatened.

If what we've been seeing so far represents the 'nice guy' Putin, I shudder to think what the alternative might be...

fdr 16th Apr 2023 15:06


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11420257)
This slipped out under the radar, who the **** takes mines into a reactor hall.



https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...61539925254144

Nutty, is this a trick question? Fill in the blanks:

The people who take mines int a reactor hall are [war criminals/a Terrorist State/ Nuclear Terrorists/Ruzzians/amoral, nekulturny followers of a cult]
See? Easy. Ask a hard question, like, why is Russia, a criminal, terrorist state, permitted into the chambers of the UN without any objection. Now, that one, I have no answer for, but we will all have a cost to bear for the gutless quislings that reside in the UN building on the Hudson.

Rescue3 16th Apr 2023 17:02


Originally Posted by waffler (Post 11420590)
I suspect that Prigozhin only wants the war to end so he can claim victory for his mercenary army and gain influence in Moscow,
the longer this war continues the more his army will be consumed, becoming irrelevant as will he.
He cares nothing for the misery he creates, only his own survival.

As one presumes most of the hierarchy. The fittest try to survive, but in what?, hopefully a heavily sanctioned and ostracised country all the while any remnants of the "top brass & leadership" remain. Back to the dark ages for them and i am afraid to say the general population who follow blindly..

Rescue3 16th Apr 2023 17:13


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11420838)
If what we've been seeing so far represents the 'nice guy' Putin, I shudder to think what the alternative might be...

Would that be more reason for leaving the Crimea instead of entering?, or perhaps they are planning for an extended summer holiday.

langleybaston 16th Apr 2023 19:08


Originally Posted by Rescue3 (Post 11420918)
Would that be more reason for leaving the Crimea instead of entering?, or perhaps they are planning for an extended summer holiday.

Surely out of, not into Crimea.
Perhaps idiocy has spread down from the head

V_2 16th Apr 2023 19:19


Originally Posted by langleybaston (Post 11420966)
Surely out of, not into Crimea.
Perhaps idiocy has spread down from the head

if you think you are about to get drafted into the Russian army, maybe going to an area that might soon be recaptured by Ukraine makes more sense than you give credit. Who knows

ORAC 16th Apr 2023 22:48

Canada will hand over the confiscated Russian An-124 "Ruslan" aircraft to Ukraine as part of new Canadian sanctions against Russian enterprises. - Prime Minister of Ukraine.

https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/ukrayini-p...osiyan-an-124/
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NutLoose 17th Apr 2023 00:25

Well that’s different, a T64 converted into an armoured personnel carrier.

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NutLoose 17th Apr 2023 00:29

Inside a Leo

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NutLoose 17th Apr 2023 00:31

More images of the troops one assumes are gathering. For the Counteroffensive.

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ORAC 17th Apr 2023 06:35

I said this would happen. That Ukraine would start using its drones to strike vulnerable Russian electrical infrastructure in retaliation for Russia's strikes on Ukraine's power grid.

There is a fire at an electrical substation in Belgorod. Preliminary reports suggest it was a UAV attack.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...872649729.html

Pali 17th Apr 2023 09:09

The deed is done. All our Migs were transferred to Ukraine.


Slovakia is also manufacturing and delivering Zuzana-2 155mm howitzers but I am afraid this is about everything we can expect from my country in regard of weapon deliveries. Pro Ukraine government lost the vote of confidence in January, we have elections in September and per polls there is a high risk that pro Russian parties will win. 25 years of propaganda within hybrid war is taking its toll. :ouch:

NutLoose 17th Apr 2023 09:17

Russia appears to be adapting the T90M armour protection...


NutLoose 17th Apr 2023 09:28

More from Italy, up to 60 now.



fdr 17th Apr 2023 14:09


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11421231)
Russia appears to be adapting the T90M armour protection...



https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1...DUjcDQst4tAAAA


Looks like cardboard to me.... just sayin'

ORAC 17th Apr 2023 16:03

The United States believes that Russia should pay for the restoration of Ukraine, and is discussing with its allies options for circumventing legal restrictions on the use of frozen Russian assets, American Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said in an interview with CNN.

Geriaviator 17th Apr 2023 16:38

High time this was done. Good luck in using Russ assets to finance defence against the war they started ... or maybe the leased airliners they have stolen ... or pay for upkeep of the millions of women and children they caused to flee their homeland.

There is a fire at an electrical substation in Belgorod. Preliminary reports suggest it was a UAV attack
Sensationalist nonsense, who would attack a civilian power station? Quite clearly, yet another instance of careless smokers.

Beamr 17th Apr 2023 18:56

Bradley in UKR camo.



Ninthace 17th Apr 2023 19:38


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11421231)
Russia appears to be adapting the T90M armour protection...



https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1...DUjcDQst4tAAAA

Probably to stabilise the turret in flight. :E

Wokkafans 18th Apr 2023 10:12

Interview with Ukrainian soldiers about trench combat. In the footage, a Ukrainian soldier gets hit/grazed with a round to the head and gets back up to fight. He ended up being shot 3 times, but thankfully survived.


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 11:36

No Words..... :sad:


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 11:41

This puts the areas where there are the potential threat from ordnance in perspective.


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 11:49

The untold damage.


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 11:55

Bakhmut, detonating pre mined buildings after the Russians move in.


Ukrainian river patrol boat hit and beached.


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 12:30

Looks like the first SU35's have arrived in Iran as part of the deal for UAV's


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 12:33

NOT the place I would hide.


NutLoose 18th Apr 2023 12:41

Swede's seeing off their latest batch of trainees departing home to Ukraine.



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