Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11291094)

Ukraine’s hackers registered a number of fake women's accounts on social networks, tricked 🇷🇺 soldiers into sending photos that they geolocated, and shared with the 🇺🇦 military. A few days later, identified 🇷🇺 base near occupied Melitopol was blown up by Ukrainian artillery.

Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11291144)

Interesting comparison, as in 2022 Russia has not achieved the bombing accuracy of the US of the 90s.


"Results of a USAF precision attack on a Serbian airbase in 1999 vs a Russian attack in February 2022 on the Ukrainian Air Force's Ozerne Air Base, home of the 39th Tactical Aviation Brigade equipped with Su-27s"

Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 11291188)

Reddit reports Aeroflot commercial service from Moscow to Sochi takes a direct routing over Donbas and Luhansk regions, quite a stunt.

For what reason?

Originally Posted by pasta (Post 11291221)

You're right, there's one doing it now. It's almost as if they thought that whoever shot down MH17 wouldn't take a pop at an Aeroflot flight...

Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11291228)

The cynic in me thinks .
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 11291301)

... much uglier than having UKR take a shot at it and then cry foul.

Originally Posted by FlightDetent (Post 11291301)

... much uglier than having UKR take a shot at it and then cry foul.

Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11291361)

I was suggesting false flag by Russia.

FlightDetent seemed to be suggesting the possibility of false flag by Ukraine.

I suppose both is possible. However, in this instance I would put my money on Russia. Imagine the outcry if the Ukraine did such a thing and were found out!

Originally Posted by Recc (Post 11290815)

They will argue that any peace is better than war, and that we should force Ukraine to negotiate (by threatening to withdraw support) so that a compromise can be reached.

Originally Posted by cynicalint (Post 11291398)

Nutty, that is an officially classified document, albeit Restricted. People can, and have, got into trouble for distributing that material outside proper channels, even second hand..

Originally Posted by cynicalint (Post 11291398)

Nutty, that is an officially classified document, albeit Restricted. People can, and have, got into trouble for distributing that material outside proper channels, even second hand..

Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11291404)

The pics are on Twitter, I posted it because I didn’t think it was genuine. Hence I wondered if it was a fake to fool the Russians to relocate defences to protect against a threat that did not exist.

Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11291228)

The cynic in me thinks that, in view of the Russian leadership's attitude to Russian lives, they want Ukraine to shoot down one of their civilian aircraft so that they (Russia) can cry foul and drive world opinion against Ukraine. I hope the UAF won't fall for that.

Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11291438)

100%
Without a shadow of a doubt.
Pity the poor civvy crews forced to fly that route.
They must be terrified.

Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11291438)

100%
Without a shadow of a doubt.
Pity the poor civvy crews forced to fly that route.
They must be terrified.

Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11291438)

100%
Without a shadow of a doubt.
Pity the poor civvy crews forced to fly that route.
They must be terrified.

Originally Posted by Recc (Post 11291468)

Is there any actual evidence that a Russian civilian aircraft flew through (or close to) Ukrainian airspace? I'm very sceptical.

Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11291361)

FlightDetent seemed to be suggesting the possibility of false flag by Ukraine.

Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11291383)

WOW, shows Russians after they got hit filmed by themselves i take it the rounds you can here are them cooking off, but what is a WOW is in the replies



https://twitter.com/ArthurPolitic/st...44116817924097

Now I do not know if this is correct, but it is rumoured ATACMS listed in the latest aid, that’s 190 mile range.

Originally Posted by WASHINGTON, Sept 6 (Reuters)

U.S. intelligence has assessed that Moscow is buying millions of artillery shells and rockets from North Korea, the New York Times reported
...
U.S. officials said they could confirm that the New York Times reporting was accurate and that additional Russian purchases of North Korean military equipment were expected.
"The Russian Ministry of Defense is in the process of purchasing millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea for use on the battlefield in Ukraine," an official said by email when asked about the paper's report.
The official said the purchases indicated that the Russian military "continues to suffer from severe supply shortages in Ukraine, due in part to export controls and sanctions."


https://www.reuters.com/world/russia...rt-2022-09-06/

Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11291613)

Lo and behold, the russkies must be VERY desperate and out of ammo buying artillery shells and rockets from North Korea.

Originally Posted by kamanya (Post 11291615)

In a future post…

Oh! Look, a Russian ship mysteriously sunk just after leaving a North Korean port?

Originally Posted by GeeRam (Post 11291652)

Can't see them using ships, most likely load them onto trains and take them across the rail bridge Russia-NK border crossing over the Tuman River.

Originally Posted by FUMR (Post 11291504)

Actually, you may have a point. Checking FR I have noticed the odd flight heading south as if going to overfly eastern Ukraine and then suddenly jump to the now usual route well east of that. I'm no FR expert but it may have something to do with predicted flightpath. Maybe DR can help us with that.