My popcorn is loaded, and we will both be glued to the small screen. Sick-bags also available if needed. ;)

Ten minutes in and I’m finding it quite painful. Plenty of whooping and hollering.

Is it the same production team as the easyjet series? I felt embarrassed watching the latter and this one seems to have shared a few of its let's try and be cool cutaways.

Nope, given up after 30 minutes.

I realise that I’m not the target audience, but it seemed disjointed and far, far too much faux jeopardy. And when did formation turn calls go all Red Arrowey? Horrible.

Time for my Horlicks and bed!

If I’d have known that it was full of smutty innuendo, I’d have stuck with it! Sadly, I suspect that it was said with an entirely straight face.

.....and lots of annoying music.

Well, it was Miss Moneypenny so it probably was innuendo!

I quite enjoyed it actually - well done to Puppy and Butch and their respective teams. :ok::ok:

The narrator was also Moneypenny, if I’m not mistaken? Which links in nicely to the name of the new Bond film - No Time To Die... sounds like my RAF career so far! :p

Hmmm

Sedge - get a bloody haircut!

Doesn't the Hawk T2 look just stoopid taxing with its canopy open!

Well, an Instructor saying ‘sweet’ was different. However, in his defence if when I went through Brawdy in the mid ‘80’s an Instructor had said ‘jolly good show bloggs’ I might have thought ‘that’s different’! Times change!

Mmmmmmm? Don’t post too much, normally wait for Beagle to tell me what I think.

Having been a stude, instructor and standards Flt Cdr at Valley, as well as spending my RAF life shifting soil I think I have some problems with what I have just watched.

I did a lot the flying for the first series back in the 80s and saw first hand how, if the story wasn’t going the way the director wanted it to go then problems ensued. Generally the RAF won the argument and “ W....k..s did not fly on your wings.” (Well done Dan)

Now, is this “Mate, touchy-feely, everybody’s name ends in “ers” bollocks for real?

This lot worried me, maybe because I’m old, but being in the front seat, now only seat, of a fast-jet hasn’t changed, less knobs and tits but with computers that talk back. However, personally, an airliner on the RT never added any stress to an IP to Tgt run. The only saving grace was when the F35 said NO and the fix was the same one I used this IPAD, switch it off, kick the s...t out of it and turn it back on.

Something has changed and IMHO not for the better.

Hope I’m wrong

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Good grief...PPruNe really is the home of old fossils...

I haven’t seen it (and I’m not in it) so can’t and won’t comment on its content.

What strikes me as funny though is that the series that was made in the 1980s attracts much comment on how bad the instruction was (also never seen it so can’t comment). It also led to adverse affects for some of its participants. The new series has already attracted comment for how it is not like the good old days.

So my question is, are some people ever going to be happy with any documentary? Also, when exactly were the good old days? And if people don’t like what’s on show now, didn’t like what was on show 35 years ago when exactly was instruction to their liking?

Would I be right in thinking that, since this is a documentary for the masses and probably to aid recruitment, it is not targeted at long retired RAF members?

Yes I have opened myself up to yet more criticism from the usual suspects. I am beginning to care less and less though.

BV

Before this descends into Monty Python’s Yorkshireman Sketch of “Luxury...we had it tough...”

Let’s answer some of the ‘outrage bus’ questions.

1. The 4g to 5g sortie was a famil trip - no point in pulling the wings off of the jet, it’s there to familiarise the student in the aircraft before the harder stuff starts (ie. to ease them in).
2. Where are the maps and charts? You will have seen the Mission Planning Aid in the TV programme and oddly enough we plan electronically these days - colour printed maps and IP/Tgt runs are still carried in case the kit stops playing.
3. 6g in a JP? Really? I don’t recall more than 5g for most of my JP flying.
4. Calling instructors ‘Sir’ on Advanced Jet Training (AJT) - this is equivalent of a little bit of the old AFT and TWU - I don’t recall calling my instructors “Sir” on TWU or even on 4FTS. So I suspect that some folks’ memories are playing tricks on them, as I can’t recall calling any of my instructors “Sir”, unless a Sqn Ldr/Wg Cdr/Gp Capt, and I have been flying in the RAF for 30 years.

So how about looking at the positive stuff - we still have a fast jet flying training system that other countries pay good money to use, we now have a far lower ‘chop’ rate as we actually teach and test these days, it is a far healthier learning environment, we have a modernised trg aircraft that now reflects the FL type they will go to (with airborne electronic threat simulation that instructor can bring up during the sortie), we now have a fast jet trainer with a basic collision warning system and the aircraft that we are training them to fly on the FL are far more capable than any than went before - 9g Typhoons and 5th generation F35s. So let’s just enjoy the filming and the insight to a trg system that is vastly different to even the one 15 years ago. The only real criticism I have over this trg system is the fact that we didn’t plan enough capacity in it from SDSR10/SDSR15 and so now we have too little capacity/aircraft for what we really need.

Finally, the young men and women that will be the future of the RAF and FAA are still very fine individuals indeed - there are still very few “w**k*rs on your wing” - probably as many, by percentage, as there ever were. It’s just that this new breed are culturally different, but underneath they still have what it takes to do what is asked of them.

Great post. I must go flying now. Toodle pip.

BV

Had to laugh though when Bally couldn’t log into his jet. Who controls that database I wonder?
“You want me on the boat over Christmas? Not if you ever want your jet to start again”

I bet when the instructor asked the cameras to leave he gave Bally his own log in!