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Ddraig Goch 4th Feb 2020 05:50

BBC reports the first Poseidon arrives at Kinloss today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...tland-51356381


NickB 4th Feb 2020 11:44

Now appeared on ADSB radar site - to the west of Scotland... ZP801

Asturias56 4th Feb 2020 12:13

This marks the end of a very sorry period in British Military History - thank God!:ok:

TEEEJ 4th Feb 2020 12:14

https://www.radarbox24.com/data/regi...801/1386357883

TEEEJ 4th Feb 2020 12:51

Videos and pics on RAF Lossiemouth Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/RAFLossiemouth/

FantomZorbin 4th Feb 2020 15:23

But where's the AAR probe?

sycamore 4th Feb 2020 15:34

FEZ,the Nimrod ones are in `stores` ...somewhere.. it`s got `plug`n play in the roof..

Trumpet trousers 4th Feb 2020 16:08

Birds Eye better start upping the production of DCS soon then!

nosmo king 5th Feb 2020 05:59

DCS yum, yum.

At last, the return of the mighty muncher

cessnapete 5th Feb 2020 06:33

So the RAF Voyager cannot refuel an RAF P8? So who refuels it on a mission if required?

pr00ne 5th Feb 2020 09:35

cessnapete,

The RAF Nimrod MR force managed perfectly well with no AAR capability up until 1982 when it had to go a little further south. How often does a MR aircraft need to refuel in mid air?

junior.VH-LFA 5th Feb 2020 09:56


Originally Posted by cessnapete (Post 10679776)
So the RAF Voyager cannot refuel an RAF P8? So who refuels it on a mission if required?

Maybe a RAAF MRTT, seeing as they bothered with the boom :E

cessnapete 5th Feb 2020 10:26

PrOOne

Dunnno, I must ask my relative who was a TriStar/Voyager AAR pilot.
Just seems bad planning for your own AAR assets unable to service your own fleet. Presumably penny pitching on the RAF Voyager spec?

Lyneham Lad 5th Feb 2020 10:29

In The Times today. Article, photo & diagram.

RAF’s new Poseidon sub hunter flies in to thwart Russia

Davef68 5th Feb 2020 11:42


Originally Posted by cessnapete (Post 10679947)
PrOOne

Dunnno, I must ask my relative who was a TriStar/Voyager AAR pilot.
Just seems bad planning for your own AAR assets unable to service your own fleet. Presumably penny pitching on the RAF Voyager spec?

Hindsight is 20:20 - how many boom equipped aircraft did the RAF have when the Voyager spec was drawn up? ( 6 (+1) E-3s and 4 C17s, one of which was also equipped with a probe and the other envisioned as a airport to airport airlifter.) I believe the boom was in the early draft for FSTA but taken out as a cost saving.

Dan Gerous 5th Feb 2020 11:46


Originally Posted by cessnapete (Post 10679947)
PrOOne

Dunnno, I must ask my relative who was a TriStar/Voyager AAR pilot.
Just seems bad planning for your own AAR assets unable to service your own fleet. Presumably penny pitching on the RAF Voyager spec?

I think this is a similar deal as happened with the C17, and all sticking to the same spec. Otherwise if they do their own thing and Boing come up with improvements, any AF that has deviated from the fleet spec will have to do all the testing/certification for any mods on their own.

Sandy Parts 5th Feb 2020 12:48

I see the Times article explains how MAD works and has drawn a MAD boom on the back of the aircraft......:ugh: Did they out-source the article to their Indian Defence Correspondent?

tucumseh 5th Feb 2020 13:08


Originally Posted by Lyneham Lad (Post 10679950)
In The Times today. Article, photo & diagram.

RAF’s new Poseidon sub hunter flies in to thwart Russia

Disappointing that the Times perpetuate the nonsense that Nimrod was cancelled due to a 'cost-saving decision'.

Lyneham Lad 5th Feb 2020 13:15

On Flight Global.

US Navy plans to arm P-8A with cruise missiles, bombs, sea mines and decoys

Article intro:-

The US Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) is soliciting potential contractors to integrate the Boeing P-8A Poseidon with Long Range Anti-Ship Missiles, as well as several other weapons.

NAVAIR is also interested in outfitting the maritime patrol aircraft with 500lb to 2,000lb-class bombs fitted with Joint Direct Attack Munition guidance kits, Mk62/63/65 Quickstrike sea mines, Raytheon’s gliding Small Diameter Bomb, as well as Miniature Air Launched Decoys, according to a notice posted online 28 January.

Mil-26Man 5th Feb 2020 13:58


4 C17s, one of which was also equipped with a probe and the other envisioned as a airport to airport airlifter.)
A C-17 with a probe? That's news to me - you have a link or an image of that?


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