Having done the media course, it is all about composition. Composition arranged by the media ops person or the camera man more likely than by the PM. Standing in water tells the story.

Now what gets my pip is the media person standing in the puddle getting soaked by rain, becoming part of the story. During the firemens' strike, one TV shot was from a studio camera out the window at the studio pretending that their car park was at an emergency fire station.

Yes, the news shows the floods but always selective.

NutLoose

Your vapid comments are a disgrace. Had the PM not gone north he'd be accussed of not caring.
When he does go, he's standing in the wrong place.
Typical pathetic drivel from a typical leftie luvvie.

I was no particular fan of politics until I was invited for a tour of parliment by my MP. I found a man working long hours trying to do his best for his constituents, and his brief.
Give your MP a ring and go and have a look, it might just wake you up.

Arguments about Cameron reducing flood defence funding are ridiculous.
This problem has been building through successive governments, Red and Blue. If Cameron had doubled the funding, it's unlikeley this flooding would be any different...:ugh:

Nut loose:

Don't hold back. Just tell us what you really think.

Perhaps not, but if he had doubled the funding, he could have gone and stood in the water in his wellies with his head held high, and let people know he doubled the funding(of course 1/2 of nothing isn't much) and that obviously it is not enough as the effects of climate change are more pronounced than were predicted, and he would look at providing more cash to prevent this happening again next year.

Look at the environmental agency flood maps. They show floodrisk for river/sea and also surface water

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PS I've corrected your appauling speeling errorz...:O

peopel are still allowed to build houses on floodplains

TBh I have somewhat limited sympathy with people who live in streets called "Watermeadow Drive", "Mill Lane" or "Marsh Crescent" who are surprised when the water arrives - butthen people buy on "San Andreas fault Blvd" I guess

When you buy a place you should look at flood maps - they are available......

Absolutely.
Not paid up, but with the alternative being Comrade Corbyn...
Oh, and my MP isn't Blue...

That should be P.S.

Oh good a discussion on punctuation in a thread about flooding in the UK in the Military Aviation Forum.

Comma after 'oh good', ExRAFRadar.

Or a hyphen . . .

(or should it be called an em dash?)

Back to the floods...

Interesting info here...
floodpreventionsociety

Called family in the Vale of York for their update [they're a few miles south of Leeming]. An interesting point was raised ...

It seems that after crops have been harvested, the farmers don't plough deeply any more ... just the top few inches. It's apparently quicker and cheaper that way. So the substrate remains as firm as ever, and thus less able to act as 'blotting paper' and facilitating run-off. Apparently they started doing this only fairly recently [5 years?].

I have no idea ... I don't have an agricultural background, and nor do my family 'oop there. But it could be a partial 'self-inflicted injury'. Would be interested to hear from any 'gentleman farmers' on here.

Have you heard about low-till / no-till farming?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-till_farming


No-till and Low-till Agriculture - HowStuffWorks


It's also better to replant immediately than leave the soil fallow, which is mostly what happens round here.

Thank you .. Every Day's A School Day here :)

being an Urban person, I am clearly completely ignorant of such matter, although I did note Perhaps this is part of that transitional period?

Anyway, thanks again, and I will re-transmit those links back to Yorkshire!

Pretty damming stuff.

Many of the current 'problem' rivers have never been dredged to any great degree. What has changed over a longer period of time is the management of the uplands, so that less water is absorbed and run-off is faster leding to a bigger faster peak in the water level downstream, and hence more flooding.


We are also having unprecedented levels of rainfall - we have had the wettest December in many areas since 1910.


December on track to be the mildest on record | Met Office News Blog


If it was simply the transfer of management to the EA as the site claims the York floods of 1982 (for example) wouldn't have happened. Those floods were what lead to the Foss Barrier being built.

Tadcaster bridge collapses.
 

UK floods: Moment Tadcaster bridge collapses - BBC News

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXaaU4UUQAAJ-NC.jpg

Absence of Leadership seems apparent as well. Head of the Environment Agency is on holiday in I think, Barbados...I was reading about it in one of the rags. To be fair, his 100k GBP p.a. job is only part time... and also everyone does deserve a holiday - just bad timing? Or worse, maybe he doesn't care that much. Apparently he has like about 10 other jobs, directorships, paid roles...
I've seen pictures in some of the papers today of the Army erecting tinny looking temporary flood barriers that work as deflectors....a bit late now really. Do they work?
I'm sorry but it is really hard not to get an impression of Britain as an utterly bereft of ideas, totally caught on the hop and badly divided shambles at the moment. And yet the weather, long a topic of grim humour, may just may this time it could be a catalyst for some change - I really hope so.
(Didn't that prolonged period of bad weather in Europe 1771 plus ultimately be responsible for bringing about 1789 and all that?)
Well Storm Frank should be hitting soon. Good luck people.

I think that's a rather cynical opinion.


Check out Bewdley on the Severn and you'll find that "tinny little barriers" do work.


The EA have plans, so what could the Chief Exec contribute right now. It's best to keep the bosses out of the way at times like this.

Here in Selby we suffered during the "once in a hundred year event" in 2000. As a result the flood defences were built up and during this period we have had no flooding in the town despite the water levels exceeding those of 2000, in fact they were the highest ever recorded here.
So I am quite happy to report that some of us Oop North have benefited from decent flood defences.😊

I noticed an RN Sea King going to rescue stranded passengers on a bus in Scotland, good effort Gannet unfortunately won't be long before they are gone.

Royal Deeside hammered.
 

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...ned-far-today/

https://i1.wp.com/www.pressandjourna...size=480%2C361

Couldn't help noticing Mr Jeremy Corbyn expressing his sympathy to damp flood victims on TV yesterday. Nicola Sturgeon too, actually.

Presumably Nutloose is furious about this.

despicable ambulance chasers both of them......... ;)

Story about the people who helped out.
 

Volunteers as well, not pressed men. I'm quite impressed - well done the Royal Lancers. (Not Carlisle region, more the York area).


Soldiers who gave up Christmas break to help flood victims praised by Armed Forces Minister (From The Northern Echo)

Volunteers as well, not pressed men

Really, I'd love to believe it. But......being ex-military myself..........It's a shame the good Minister didn't come with goodie's. A 'stand down' The Lancers for a couple of weeks would have been nice. Seeing as overtime is a myth.All the same, Well Done The Lancers,

Surely "overtime" in any military outfit is a myth.
Apart from things like limiting flying and driving hours for safety reasons, you carry on until the job is done, or you fall asleep.
I do not imagine you clocked off on the Western froint, or more recently in Cyprus or the Falklands

The RNLI, Mountain Rescue and other groups working alongside certainly aren't being paid overtime. Or any salary at all, come to that.

The RNLI and MR etc are not obliged to turn out - they are volunteers (albeit very worthy volunteers). I myself am a volunteer in my local civil defence cadre here in France and turn out for them whenever I can.

It is a different sort of sacrifice to military who, when on rare occasions are ordered to turn out to supplement the civil defence forces, have no choice in the matter (even though they are usually very keen to help anyway). It is quite right that they should be compensated for their lost leave.

European countries are, for the most part, well managed and have a good balance between volunteer community spirit and state resources. If we regress to a system where there are no volunteers and no community spirit, we will be going backwards to the dismal levels of other parts of the world.